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UPDATE: Smyrna PD made three arrests at party Saturday

Mike Smith: "All of the arrests all stemmed from the event that this gentleman put on. Everything stemmed as a result of this party."

 

UPDATE FEB. 7 

Smyrna Police are reporting that three arrests were made Saturday outside EGAS Inc., a youth outreach group housed in the former Piccadilly location at 2781 South Cobb Drive, after a party the group was holding got out of hand.

Mike Smith, public information officer for the Smyrna Police Department, said two adults were arrested for disorderly conduct. A juvenile was also arrested for disorderly conduct and obstruction after he resisted arrest and provided police with a false name and date of birth.

“People were arrested at the party or as it was breaking up,” Smith said. “Things had gotten out of hand inside and the person putting on the event shut down the event and tried to send everybody home. At that point fights were breaking out and that type of thing. That’s when the police were called. We actually had to call Cobb County police there were so many people there to provide additional assistance.”

Mel Catholic, EGAS Inc.’s founder and the property holder, told Smyrna-Vinings Patch on Sunday that Saturday’s incident did not involve his organization, but that police were called for crowd control after an altercation between adults at the parking lot of the nearby Blockbuster.

Smith noted that the police report named EGAS Inc. as the location of the disturbance. He added that there have been no incidences at Blockbuster since Dec. 31.

“All of the arrests all stemmed from the event that this gentleman put on,” he said. “Everything stemmed as a result of this party.”

One teen that attended the party said it had been broken up because members of a gang were trying to start a fight. Smith noted that police had received a similar report, but said they had no specific information to indicate gang activity. 

FEB. 5 Saturday Smyrna and Cobb Police responded to a disturbance near EGAS Inc., a youth outreach group housed in the former Piccadilly location at 2781 South Cobb Drive. Mel Catholic, the organization’s founder, said that the incident Saturday did not involve his organization.

“It was basically a small altercation of adults off the property in the Blockbuster parking lot,” he said. “Basically the police were crowd control.”

Catholic said about 480 teens had come to EGAS Inc. for a party Saturday night. When Smyrna-Vinings Patch arrived on the scene around midnight there were about 10 Smyrna and Cobb police cars in the EGAS Inc. parking lot and on South Cobb Drive in front of the building. Most of the attendees had left the party, but there were still a few teens waiting for rides in the parking lot and gathered outside the nearby Shell gas station.

One teen that attended the party preferred not to give his name, but said it had been broken up because members of a gang were threatening to start a fight.

“Inside my building there was no fight,” Catholic said. “In my parking lot there were no fights.”

Smyrna and Cobb police could not be reached for comment at this posting.

Related Topics: Cobb Police Department, EGAS Inc., and Smyrna Police

Paul Smyrna

4:58 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

There were three calls to the Smyrna Police at "his" business last night and at least two were arrested. While it may not have been "inside his business" when the cops showed up, it was because of his business. Maybe he needs some security (off duty cops not rent a cops that just watch).

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M.Willis

10:16 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Hopefully he will get adequate security. A lot of kids showed up, this shows it is definitely a need so hopefully with some adjustments (including security) the organization will flourish. P.F. How do u know the cops were called three times? Is there a site that provides that info? There is another location I would like to check out and follow.Thanks!

J. B. Smith

11:51 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

They definitely need security with 480 teens hanging out in one place in that area of town on a Saturday night.

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Paul Smyrna

3:48 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

I was listening to the police scanner.

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M.Willis

4:12 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Thanks P.F. Guess I need to invest in one as well:-)

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MC

12:22 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

These are all wonderful points.That's why, with all this wisdom and constant community involvement that i'm noticing here,with our combined efforts,I'm positive and confident, these youth will have NO choice,but to flourish and become the model citizens our community needs. I'm overjoyed at the thought of people joining in and becoming part of the solution,rather than the problem. I can be a tad bit over the top with my hopes and dreams when it comes to EGAS,but what else is there? Should I strive for mediocrity?I THINK NOT!!!! These are OUR kids and I WILL NOT take anything EGAS do lightly and I WILL Trust in God and our community will serve as Pilots and I'm the Co-Pilot!! I NEED YOU GUYS TO HELP ME!

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Neal Dow

10:29 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Everyone wishes the best for every child. Everyone also understands that the playing field isn't level. It's great that you have stepped forward to help teens.

But, there are many questions about you and your organization, When these questions are answered, it will help the community better understand you and your program.

What are your qualifications? Where does your funding come from? What has EGAS accomplished in the past? How do you plan to offer services for teens? Are you affiliated with the Cobb Co. school district or board? Do you have employees? Are their backgrounds checked?

Again, it's great that you want to work with Smyrna's teens. The city and its citizens will support you, but a clearer understanding of you and EGAS is needed.

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Smyrna Jonquil

5:05 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Friendly advice. I work with these youth also. I was concerned about teens that you put on your board of directors. We would like to help with the program, but are hesitant to send kids over with some of your teen leaders. Out of curiousity, are you checking behavior/grades or requiring references?

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pogo art (Gary)

6:00 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Mr. Catholic you may want to help our children in the South Cobb Drive area but what happen on saturday night should not have happen. Some of our Community leaders are working on a Boys Club to give our teens a place to go where there would be supervision. The police report that I read was not anywhere close to how a Boys Club would have been run. I drove by the Piccadily on Saturday night right before 6:00 P.M. and kids where wraped around the building. There seem to be no supervision of any kind. The lack of supervision has now put a stain on Your EGAS and on the South Cobb Drive area which we are trying to build up not tear down. We have a new Kroger that is a wonderful new update for South Cobb Drive. We hope you have a better plan for helping our children and that this will not happen again on South Cobb Drive.

Kamma

10:57 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Is that building rated for almost 500?
With today's social media frenzy, a small gathering can turn into a huge party very quickly. A huge party can turn into a riot and so on...
Does EGAS plan to have security for events?
Will the police be informed of scheduled events that might draw large crowds?
Are there plans in place for when things get out of control.
Teens are wonderful, they are full of hormones and do not have the maturity to know how to control them. So it might be good to have more adult and community involvement.
I am just a couple of blocks away from EGAS and well, as much as I don't like to admit it - we live in and near some rough communities. Teens, kids and adults who might not have the best home environments. So EGAS is needed, and that is probably the perfect location.
I was so excited when I read the first article about the pending opening. And after reading this, and the fact that the police report lists EGAS as the location of the fights/arrests and then reports that the owner of the club "MC"? states that it was across the street?
In our community, honesty is very important. If you want support - be honest. Something along the lines of "we were not prepared for the crowd, it got out of hand - and the fights (or whatever actually happened) did spur from our party"... "we need your help"

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Kamma

12:55 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I look forward to meeting you MC!

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MC

1:15 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Thank You Kamma. I appreciate your feedback and receive it! I realize this is a community project and community involvement is a must. I am in the process of forming a board to be a part of the implementation of functions for the Smyrna Youth. Based on your feedback, I would like to meet with you and discuss your willingness or interest in being involved. Please let me know if you are open to this idea. MC

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Kristen Sudduth

1:49 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

We knew about this party somewhere in the middle of last week when someone invited our daughter to "a party at the old Piccadilly" that all the students at CHS were going to too. For 3 days we looked for info on this and found nothing and the only information getting to us was it was hosted by some seniors.

I am all for community groups but from what I have read, this looks awfully suspicious. Turning over a group to a Board of Directors that are all teens, no additional adults appear to be involved and quite honestly it's run by someone who no one in this town seems to know.

Sidney, here are some questions I'd like to see answers for:
1. Who is Mr. Catholic, where did he come from, when did he move to Smyrna?
2. What adults are involved with this organization?
3. Does this organization have regular "stake-holders" if you will meeting for parents?
4. What services other than block parties is he planning to offer?
5. Were the police made aware of an event this size prior to it?
6. Is Mr Catholic a teacher, preacher, counselor, parent, husband? Why such an interest in "troubled" kids in our community?

With all due respect to Mr. Catholic, I imagine I can speak for the parents of a lot of teenagers in Smyrna, when I say we hope your intentions are honorable, but we need you to talk to us before you throw a bash and invite our kids.

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K. Davis

3:27 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Good luck, Sydney, on finding information on Catholic. I did extensive research and all I found were three Articles of Incorporation for nonprofits in MS. They were: The Lottie S. Catholic Library-Music Foundation Corp. Inc. 1998(Registered Agent - Rev. Melvin Catholic Sr.), Women Entrepreners (sic) of Tomorrow 1999 (Registered Agent - Marilyn Cathey, Incorporator - Melvin Catholic Sr.), and Gardner AG-Grow-Cultural Economic Inc. 1994 (Incorporator - Melvin Catholic Sr.) All are registered in the state of MS (Greenville, Itta Bena). His web site www.egasinternational.com is bare bones and doesn't give much information.

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J. B. Smith

4:43 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

That link doesn't even work at all now.

L. Davis

8:58 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

The Marietta Daily Journal would like any information anyone has about EGAS. Email Kim Isaza www.kisaza@mdjonline.com

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Pepper

10:03 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Sorry folks but my teenaged granddaughters will not be going to that place! Too many kids in one place and without the proper amount of supervision, no way in ....!One function and this happens! What will the future at this place be like?
I think they should have hired off duty SPD officers and limit the number of people in the space. 480 kids are way too many for any location. Crowding them in spells trouble!

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NTH

4:27 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Okay.....REALLY??? I cannot believe you people are giving this man a hard time. He is trying to do positive things in our community and with our kids. I am appauled at some of the things you are saying. I have a child that is involved with EGAS. She has a 4.0 and is very active in the community and her school. All the kids that are involved in this are positive role models. Mr. Catholic has no control over who shows up to these parties. Your child or mine may be a gang member and you don't know it. I do agree with one thing and that is he should have some sort of security or off duty officer. We just need to give this a chance for our kids sake. This is a work in progress. I commend you Mr. Catholic and if you need any kind of help or support please don't hesitate to give me a call. I am one parent that is going to support you 110% all the way!!

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Michelle

8:41 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

NTH, Mr. Catholic can quickly and effectively clear up any unsavory thoughts and feelings regarding his effort by answering the questions that have been asked and further more not lying publicly about how and where the incident occured. He has lost creditability for not telling the truth of what happen that evening and by not providing more information as to who he is and what his intentions are. I for one am in support of having a place our young adults can go to, but I agree, that more information needs to be provided by Mr. Catholic and hopefully a more structured and better supervised event will occur. It also would be nice to see this venue and organization provide more for the community and themselves by doing other things than just having a "party".

Inside-Out

11:47 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Really, you place the security of your child with a man who has not established his background to the community. He very well be the salt of the earth but we have not established that. A person comes into the community and leases a large building and invites the youth in. I for one wiould not allow any of my children to attend a function with a person that I do not know anything about. We know nothing in regards to any employees or volunteers he has at thios location nor do we know if he has performed any background checks. Is he working with any other groups ? As a parent it is my responsibility to know who my child is with at all times. Even as I rode by this week, there were youth on the property skateboarding with not one adult in sight. Is this business carrying insurance ? The unknowns are way too many for me. He has the Patch as an open forum to answer our questions and ease our concerns. I do not like the way he has jumped straight into the community and invited our youth to visit. It smells bad no matter how you look at it, REALLY.

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Ms. Massey

2:51 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

Well, I have to chime in here. I am an educator, parent of a young adult, Cobb and a concerned Cobb citizen. I was somewhat puzzled when I read the article about this youth enrichment center occupying this establishment. Like many concerned posters here, I went looking for information about this organization and nothing was found. I have to agree with many of the concerned posters here in that there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. Mr. MC, maybe, you need to have some "community chats" and effectively give the community the "who, what, when, where and why". I am sure that many of the citizens agree that there needs to be some type of constructive and positive activities for the youth but it seems this entity has gotten off to a bad start. Even though I have a full schedule most of the time, I am willing to learn more about this organization called EGAS which will help me make a decision if I can a resource of not. I am very involved in the Cobb community so I do have access to various resources, organizations and individuals. I will definitely follow this story and be optimistic that there will be some positive outcomes for the Cobb community.

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L. Davis

8:37 am on Sunday, March 11, 2012

Realtor frustrated after mentoring group goes AWOL
By Marcus E. Howard mhoward@mdjonline.com
03/11/12
SMYRNA – A little known mentoring group has disappeared, as quickly as it was set up in Smyrna.
Very little is publically known about EGAS Inc., a mentoring group that was housed in the former Piccadilly
‘He’s not paying the rent and he’s not doing anything with the property. It’s frustrating because I turned away people to give him the opportunity.’ — Jim Hutcherson, Louisville, Ky.-based Realtor
Cafeteria building at 2781 South Cobb Drive north of Church Street. A recent inspection of the property by the Journal revealed what seemed to be a seldom used facility.

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L. Davis

8:37 am on Sunday, March 11, 2012

The property’s Realtor informed the Journal that he plans to put the restaurant back on the real estate market, after having many of his messages to the founder of EGAS, Mel Catholic, unreturned. He said reports of a recent fight at the location only made him wearier about the operation.
Catholic did not respond to the Journal’s request for an interview.
Jim Hutcherson is a Louisville, Ky.-based Realtor who said he leased the former Piccadilly facility to Catholic upon hearing of his plans to establish an outreach organization for disadvantaged youth in Cobb County. He said the building is privately owned by a Miami resident and that the restaurant continues to lease it.
Hutcherson said Catholic told him that he wanted to operate an afterschool organization, similar to the Boys & Girls Club, where students could receive training in culinary arts, fine arts and other fields. They would also have car washes to help raise money, but the operation would at least be initially funded by present or former professional athletes he knew in Texas, Hutcherson said he was told.
“Everything that he said, I bought into it whole hog,” Hutcherson said. “I loved the concept, as ambiguous as it was.”
“He had told me previously that he had spoken with a lot of city people and they were really behind this, supporting this.”

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L. Davis

8:38 am on Sunday, March 11, 2012

Hutcherson, who works to lease Piccadilly’s excess properties, said Catholic signed a lease for the former Piccadilly restaurant in October. He said he agreed to allow Catholic’s organization to use the facility rent free until January. He hoped to have Catholic eventually pay at least half of what Piccadilly was leasing it for.
“Piccadilly has got a lease that runs through May 1, 2013,” Hutcherson said.

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L. Davis

8:38 am on Sunday, March 11, 2012

“They’re paying rent, taxes, insurance, everything ... they probably pay somewhere in the neighborhood of $1,100 or $1,200 a month.”
In the meantime, problems surrounding EGAS began to arise.
Hutcherson said Tuesday that he had not been in communication with Catholic for about two or three weeks. He said he last heard that Catholic was having health issues.
The Journal was with Hutcherson when he drove to Smyrna, down from Louisville, to check things out for himself at the former Piccadilly location and seek answers from city officials. Peaking through the facility’s dark windows, Hutcherson — who was without keys to the building — said the property looked uninhabited with the exception of a few sofas and a disco ball hanging from the ceiling.
“He’s not paying the rent and he’s not doing anything with the property.
It’s frustrating because I turned away people to give him the opportunity,” said Hutcherson. “We’re here treading water doing nothing. Piccadilly is asking me, ‘What’s going? How come we’re not receiving rent?’ They want to start legal proceedings.”

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K. Davis

9:53 am on Sunday, March 11, 2012

It didn't sound right from the very beginning.

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trying

2:52 pm on Sunday, March 11, 2012

I appreciate the few people that post factual information on this site. We are very aware that Sean Murphy , Chris Long, Michelle & others are simply helping cover up the cities lack of honesty & transparency. Thanks for being on top of things, kdavis!

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R. Anderson

8:55 pm on Sunday, March 11, 2012

Thanks L. Davis for posting the article. And thanks to K. Davis for your efforts.

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Michelle

11:45 pm on Sunday, March 11, 2012

For the record "trying", I have never nor will I ever cover any thing up for the city or any one else for that matter. Just a small, friendly suggestion...be very careful as to what you want to "accuse me" of doing with the city...Google libel. Thank you. :)

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K. Davis

7:46 am on Monday, March 12, 2012

I believe in the democratic process. Since the mayor and council aren't honest with us we need to call them on it. There are others holding our local leadership accountable. Thanks to them also.

Google open government. Thank you. :)

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L. Davis

8:25 am on Monday, March 12, 2012

When they can't defend the city's leaders they attack those that question that leadership. Google ad hominem. Thank you. :)

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Michelle

8:45 am on Monday, March 12, 2012

There is never a need for personal attacks when all of the false and misleading information can and has been proven to be wrong or challenged with facts. Google...Reality. And you are welcome. :)

R. Anderson

3:33 pm on Sunday, March 11, 2012

I've tried sending MDJ links to people and if they didn't have a subscription they couldn't open it. Maybe L Davis posted the whole article for that reason.

It looks like Mr. Catholic's whereabouts are unknown. He sounded like a suspicious character to me.

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Teri A.

10:17 am on Monday, March 12, 2012

K. Davis, you clearly have very strong feelings about your elected officials. I'll extend the invitation again - please don't hesitate to call me at 404-931-8374 so we can set up a meeting to discuss your concerns.

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Neal Dow

12:18 pm on Monday, March 12, 2012

You ran for public office and got elected as a public servant. Yet you want to conduct the public's business in private. It doesn't work that way in a democracy.

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K. Davis

9:13 pm on Monday, March 12, 2012

It doesn't work that way. You have put yourself into the public arena to conduct the public's business.
Concerns:
We have a council-manager form of city government in which the mayor plays a ceremonial role and the city manager implements municipal policy. But we have a mayor who maintains control of the municipality through intimidation and backroom deals. Smyrna is run by a political machine.
In the US one of the main functions of the city council is to oversee the mayor's activities. This can be done by voting or through delivering public statements. We have only one council member willing to do this now because he has had his power taken from him.
Neither the mayor nor city council answers questions or concerns at the council meetings. They must answer to the citizens who voted them into office.
There are no town hall meetings. They are a part of the democratic process. We have machine politics.
Blatant favoritism is shown by the city towards certain vendors and businesses. There's closed door bidding. Deals are made in back rooms.
The city's leaders have a total disregard for open and transparent government. Anyone who speaks out is personally attacked for exercising their right to free speech. A citizen of Smyrna was arrested because the mayor wanted her silenced.

Amy

12:22 pm on Monday, March 12, 2012

Its funny - one day people are complaining the city interferes too much in businesses that try to open here, today its that the city doesn't interfere enough.

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Michelle

7:17 pm on Monday, March 12, 2012

It is funny Amy.....there is a lot that is posted on this site that is funny. Glad to see you can read between the lines. Maybe one day the glass will be half full verses half empty with unhappy citizens. :)

J. B. Smith

2:08 pm on Monday, March 12, 2012

I am not at all surprised at this outcome, unfortunately.

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Inside-Out

1:35 am on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Here we go again with the MK machine propoganda. Next verse same as the first. She was arrested a public meeting, in a public building for cussing at the Mayor. Everyone at this meeting saw what happened and they also know why. This was a public town hall meeting open to both adults and children of all ages. She wanted to get arrested for publicity. She wasn't going to stop until she reached that level. As most have noticed by now only two or three detractors show up at nearly every meeting, with this " Smyrna is so terrible " rant. One keeps ranting that he wants town hall meetings. Why ? Just so we can hear the same old garbage about how we don't have an open government. The citizens who voted in th elast election voted Mayor Bacon in yet again. Now Alex still can't believe he lost again, especially by such a large amount. This man couldn't even cut it as the dog catcher, how in the World did he think he was gonna be the mayor. I rode down Concord road today and looked at the vacant properties, with the buildings knocked down. There are still quite a few trees left. If you want more trees then go out and buy them. I don't want to pay for them. If you want some benches then go buy them. I don't want to pay for them and I wouldn't want to buy them for my neighborhood either. One person continues to yell about all the wrongdoing with the SPLOST funds. Either take facts to the Grand jury for indictment or let it go. Enough is enough.

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Inside-Out

1:43 am on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Anyone have proof of these so called back door meetings and deals ? I didn't think so. If you did then you would have reported those to the Grand Jury as well. All city services are put out to bid and the low bidder wins. Thats the way it works. Now those that lose can jump up and down all they want to, but that is just the way the process works. To quote from an earlier comment "Neither the mayor nor city council answers questions or concerns at the council meetings. They must answer to the citizens who voted them into office." They do. Maybe there is a legitimate reason they don't answer you. The majority of the voters in Smyrna showed who they have faith in and voted that way.

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Tiffany Clark

12:34 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Wow! The majority of registered voters didn't even vote. Smyrnans don't vote because they don't support Bacon. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

And who admits they live in Smyrna? They say they live in Vinings. Smyrna has an awful reputation.

I also don't see anyone coming to the podium to tell the mayor and council that they're doing a good job.

I noticed the councilwoman hasn't addressed K Davis' concerns. And K Davis made good points. Score one for Davis!

Mike H is probably a city employee. I can't see anyone without something to gain repeating this propaganda.

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Amy

12:54 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

The voting rate in 2009 for Atlanta mayoral rate was only about 30% according to the AJC. I don't think we in Smyrna are unique in low voter turnout for municipal elections.

Also, typically when you don't support a candidate, you vote against them, not abstain from voting. Not that the other choices were particularly supportable for a rational person.

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Smyna Res

3:29 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Tiffany you are kidding right? They didn't vote because they don't support Bacon?

Wow - what is fantasy land like? I'm trying to think about the amount of drugs I would have to do + amount I would have to bang my head against a brick in order to understand that logic.

Inside-Out

1:26 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that only two or three are concerned with the amount of trees that are planted or how many benches Brookhaven may have. The majority that voted made Max Bacon their choice for leadership. It's always the same old people that bring up the same old diatribe. One of them has been carrying around her notes so long that the paper has started to turn brown. Either you take action or just continue to beat the same old drum. It gets boring. Those who "know" the truth but do nothing with it. Why you may ask, it is because they have nothing. Those who did not vote got exactly what the people who voted wanted. Way to make a point, to not vote. That makes as much sense as the same old garbage we continue to hear about. As vocal as some of these folks are you think they would do something. But no, they just continue to come to the meetings and ramble for their 3 minutes of fame. I wish I did work for the City, but wouldn't take the cut in pay.As long as the vocal continue to rant about how bad we have it, I will defend what they can not prove and what I know is the truth. Slinging lies that they have all this secret documentation and knowledge of but yet do nothing with. If you just stand by and yell fire, and do nothing about it then what have you really done ? Nothing.

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Tiffany Clark

6:45 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Word had gotten out about the monosynaptic Smyrnites on Patch. It didn't take long to flush you all out. It's pathetic how you have to defend your deteriorating
city and it's crooked leaders. They can't even speak for themselves and have to depend on yahoos to do their job.. BTW all of you would lose a debate with a doorknob.

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Freya Stark

7:54 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Well for one thing, it makes her someone who can spell.
If anyone here is under the slightest impression that this site or the posters on it reflect any majority of Smyrna, they need to buy a clue.
It's a good thing too that the 10 people regularly here don't represent all of Smyrna either!
Opinions, opinions, opinions. For all the links & blustering, that's all ANYONE is offering up.
This whole "you're wrong, so there!" mentality smacks of elementary school.
Nobody here has proven a thing. Not S.J.M. not his wife, Michelle, not Mike H., not the Davis or Andersons..nobody. You're not "right" just because you're nastier. I personally think there's a problem with the way the city gov't runs things, but that doesn't make me wrong.

Nothing like trying to bully people into your POV. Or worse. Give it a rest.

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Michelle

11:49 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Technically we have proven on more than one occassion MANY things in countering the false or misleading post made by a very small percentage of unhappy citizens. And the ONLY time things have gotten nasty are when we had to defend statements that were personal, false and frequently libel. As for having your opinion (whether right or wrong) is no different than us having ours (whether right or wrong)...but there is a big difference between an opinion and making false claims while not being able to back the accusation up with facts. There is also a difference between an opinion and making personal attacks towards a person(s) and their involvement with the city and wrongfully accusing them of criminal activity. As for bullying any one.....I believe that would fall under the "kettle calling itself black", I think there are plenty of post to prove that. Maybe practicing what you preach would be benificial for everyone...please do "give it a rest".

Freya Stark

12:46 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Umm No Michelle. Technicaly, the "we" you're refering to hasn't Proven anything. Stating an opinion or a belief is not lying or misleading, btw, anymore than it's the gospel truth. Opinions are not "right or wrong"..the black and white you seem to want to paint every scenario with are not applicable here.
Only a great fool would deny that where there is smoke, there's fire. So voicing a suspicion or the perception of impropriety is utterly warranted. It is OUR city and OUR government and OUR elected officials. Not just yours or the people you've apparently aligned yourself with.

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Freya Stark

12:54 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

If you do not agree with the sentiment of others, you need not even engage in a dialogue. Because as sure as I will never change the minds of those of you who believe yourselves to know something more than I do, I rest quite comfortably in the knowledge that you cannot snow this snowman.
Agree to disagree, but don't think your smug condescention is going to win this debate for you.
And you know, if you all would quit trying to tell everyone else how wrong, stupid, paranoid we are, you might find there are very valid concerns being voiced. Listen to us..we are your neighbors. Like it or not, we're in this just like you.

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Michelle

12:59 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Umm actually "we" have, but trying to convince you otherwise is pointless and illogical. So you keep doing what you're doing and "we" will keeping doing what we're doing.....can't wait to see how it turns out for you and the "people you've apparently aligned yourself with". BTW...where there is smoke and fire...usually you can find water to put it out.

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Smyrna Resident

12:20 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

The Hallelujah Chorus got pranked. They remind me of a bird that kept pecking at its reflection in a car mirror. It couldn't figure out it was pecking its own image.

While they're pecking http://www.vccaga.org/

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Michelle

9:12 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

So instead of posting a link and complaining about the city you live in and the people who care about it...start a group like Vinings did......oh that's right...it's just easier to complain and target people who care than to actually do something positive for your community/city. Have fun with that.....I am sure you will find great success in your lack of effort. ;)

Oscar G.

1:34 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012

And what does all this posturing have to do with the arrests that were made?
Why don't you guys just have a public debate amongst yourselves at the coffee shop and stop cluttering up these threads with your apparent need to one up each other?

We get it.
You're right, they're wrong. Blah Blah Blah.

Where's the editor in all this? Why is this kind of garbage even allowed to stay posted? How about some useful information that doesn't reek of Personalities above Principles?

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Michelle

2:59 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012

Thanks for you concern Oscar.... as a matter of fact, on more than one occasion it has been offered to meet and "discuss" the issues in person, but never have we received a response to do so. You ask where the editor was in all this.....deleting post that were personal attacks and not appropriate. As for straying from the topic...may I suggest you take that up with the individuals who continue to make personal attacks on others that post here...even when they have not stated anything in a thread, yet still manage to be brought into their false and frequently inaccurate post. So with all due respect......my suggestion, ask the unhappy citizens that post here frequently to stay on topic and leave the personal attacks to themselves or to the face to face debate that we still are more than willing to have with them. :) Other than that....I would just read the article and not the comment section if you don't want to witness the craziness that occurs...or like me...just considered it entertainment - because many times what a few individuals post here...is exactly that.

Oscar G.

3:42 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012

I have no idea who this "we" is that you're refering to Michelle, but what I'm seeing here, right now, are 4 posters who are attacking almost every other poster on this board.
I read through this garbage in hopes of some useful information. What I read instead is like some FaceBook high school page. The only thing you're all proving is how divided this city is. Like it or not Michelle, Mike, Chris, whomever, you are a part of the problem. Not the solution.
I suggest that ALL of you who feel so strongly about Smyrna set a time a place and have a debate. And that Miss Busbey close this thread.
This public display is just disgraceful.

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Michelle

3:53 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012

Well, sorry you feel the way you do. We all have our opinions, our reasons and motivations, good luck with yours and I will keep up with mine. As for the debate...looking forward to the opportunity....if it ever happens.
As for closing the thread....not a bad suggestion...or you could just stop reading it it...but then what would be the fun in that. :)

Oscar G.

5:28 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012

This is truly sad. You honestly don't see where your commentary is gas on the fire. If not another fire in and of itself. I have only seen where Chris and SJM have used the words "Smyrna sux". Not the others.
You want people to respect you and take you seriously? Then lead by example.
I for one am tired of the endless bickering. You either need to meet and discuss your issues in person like adults, or shut up about it.
Pick a time, pick a place, go there. And leave this place out of your power struggles.

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Oscar G.

1:45 pm on Monday, March 19, 2012

How ridiculous.
Your assumptions are incorrect. I've been reading for months, but have recently decided to put 2 cents in because the level of childishness has escalated to embarrassing.

I addressed the forum, not indiviuals, unless spoken to. It takes 2 to tango and no one is innocent in this mockery.

Put your egos and personalities aside and work for the betterment of the city.

Methinks they doth protest too much!

Solutions people! Not schoolhouse attitudes and antics!

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Michelle

3:40 pm on Monday, March 19, 2012

Oh how the sentiment and delivery is all too familiar with a passionate desire for change. Thank you for that. Your suggestions are valued and we will continue to work for the betterment of our community, neighborhood and city through the volunteer efforts we already participate in and the desire to speak positive about that city. Being part of the solution is much better than being part of the problem. Look forward to seeing you around town since you have made such a great suggestion or maybe even on the Patch since it does become an easy way to communicate. It is a great venue to bring together ideas, solutions, suggestions, community support and general factual information, something you now have participated in. It takes a village even if all citizens do not agree. :)

Oscar G.

11:50 am on Friday, April 20, 2012

CL, the reason I deleted that post was because I realized it wasn't what needed to be stated about the issue. It is quite disturbing that you attack, attack, attack any and everyone who doesn't share your opinions. And I repeat, you are the only one claiming "Smyrna Sux."
There are issues facing Smyrna that will not be resolved on this or any other forum. Knowing that my neighbors have such volitile responses on the internet makes me leery to sit down in person w/any of you. The Truth will out Mr. Long. And I don't think anyone will be pleased when it does.

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