Hopefully he will get adequate security. A lot of kids showed up, this shows it is definitely a need so hopefully with some adjustments (including security) the organization will flourish. P.F. How do u know the cops were called three times? Is there a site that provides that info? There is another location I would like to check out and follow.Thanks!

Everyone wishes the best for every child. Everyone also understands that the playing field isn't level. It's great that you have stepped forward to help teens.

But, there are many questions about you and your organization, When these questions are answered, it will help the community better understand you and your program.

What are your qualifications? Where does your funding come from? What has EGAS accomplished in the past? How do you plan to offer services for teens? Are you affiliated with the Cobb Co. school district or board? Do you have employees? Are their backgrounds checked?

Again, it's great that you want to work with Smyrna's teens. The city and its citizens will support you, but a clearer understanding of you and EGAS is needed.

Friendly advice. I work with these youth also. I was concerned about teens that you put on your board of directors. We would like to help with the program, but are hesitant to send kids over with some of your teen leaders. Out of curiousity, are you checking behavior/grades or requiring references?

Mr. Catholic you may want to help our children in the South Cobb Drive area but what happen on saturday night should not have happen. Some of our Community leaders are working on a Boys Club to give our teens a place to go where there would be supervision. The police report that I read was not anywhere close to how a Boys Club would have been run. I drove by the Piccadily on Saturday night right before 6:00 P.M. and kids where wraped around the building. There seem to be no supervision of any kind. The lack of supervision has now put a stain on Your EGAS and on the South Cobb Drive area which we are trying to build up not tear down. We have a new Kroger that is a wonderful new update for South Cobb Drive. We hope you have a better plan for helping our children and that this will not happen again on South Cobb Drive.

That link doesn't even work at all now.

NTH, Mr. Catholic can quickly and effectively clear up any unsavory thoughts and feelings regarding his effort by answering the questions that have been asked and further more not lying publicly about how and where the incident occured. He has lost creditability for not telling the truth of what happen that evening and by not providing more information as to who he is and what his intentions are. I for one am in support of having a place our young adults can go to, but I agree, that more information needs to be provided by Mr. Catholic and hopefully a more structured and better supervised event will occur. It also would be nice to see this venue and organization provide more for the community and themselves by doing other things than just having a "party".

Reposting entire articles (or extremely lengthy excerpts) from other sites is unnecessary (if not poor form). A simple link, or perhaps a like w/a BRIEF explanation, will suffice. The rest is essentially spam.

Judging from the content of your post, and the fact that this is your first, I'm guessing "we" is you and K. Davis? At any rate, if you really believe anything you just posted, then you haven't actually read anything that's been posted on this site.

Amen to that, trying.

Thanks L. Davis for posting the article. And thanks to K. Davis for your efforts.

For the record "trying", I have never nor will I ever cover any thing up for the city or any one else for that matter. Just a small, friendly suggestion...be very careful as to what you want to "accuse me" of doing with the city...Google libel. Thank you. :)

I believe in the democratic process. Since the mayor and council aren't honest with us we need to call them on it. There are others holding our local leadership accountable. Thanks to them also.

Google open government. Thank you. :)

When they can't defend the city's leaders they attack those that question that leadership. Google ad hominem. Thank you. :)

There is never a need for personal attacks when all of the false and misleading information can and has been proven to be wrong or challenged with facts. Google...Reality. And you are welcome. :)

No doubt he did sound like, and apparently is, a suspicious character.

That said, reposting entire articles, or even long excerpts, is poor form & a form of spam. Several people that post here that do this frequently. In this case the article is free in its entirety and anyone who is interested can find/read it. Again, posting a link (which works just fine) and giving a brief description is sufficient.

& yes, if someone posts/emails a link to paid content to non-subscribing members generally they are only able to see a teaser, not the full content. This is by design...b/c that person has not purchased the content. Posting anything more than the link &/or the teaser is stealing.

You ran for public office and got elected as a public servant. Yet you want to conduct the public's business in private. It doesn't work that way in a democracy.

It doesn't work that way. You have put yourself into the public arena to conduct the public's business.
Concerns:
We have a council-manager form of city government in which the mayor plays a ceremonial role and the city manager implements municipal policy. But we have a mayor who maintains control of the municipality through intimidation and backroom deals. Smyrna is run by a political machine.
In the US one of the main functions of the city council is to oversee the mayor's activities. This can be done by voting or through delivering public statements. We have only one council member willing to do this now because he has had his power taken from him.
Neither the mayor nor city council answers questions or concerns at the council meetings. They must answer to the citizens who voted them into office.
There are no town hall meetings. They are a part of the democratic process. We have machine politics.
Blatant favoritism is shown by the city towards certain vendors and businesses. There's closed door bidding. Deals are made in back rooms.
The city's leaders have a total disregard for open and transparent government. Anyone who speaks out is personally attacked for exercising their right to free speech. A citizen of Smyrna was arrested because the mayor wanted her silenced.

You posted on an internet forum - you spoke to everyone.

Tiffany, I wasn't speaking directly to you either...however, I am speaking to anyone who thinks the City is responsible for a private business running a muck the very first time they have an event. If this was the third or fourth time that would be one thing. But this guy held one event as far as we know and did not run the place very wisely and now he is gone. We don't know the circumstances of why is now non responsive so complaining about the City in relation to this can mean only one thing, that is the people complaining or questioning the City must have an ax to grind that is unrelated to the actions of this business.

It is funny Amy.....there is a lot that is posted on this site that is funny. Glad to see you can read between the lines. Maybe one day the glass will be half full verses half empty with unhappy citizens. :)

This is apropos
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/11/tech/web/online-comments-sxsw/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

This is apropos
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/11/tech/web/online-comments-sxsw/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Wow! The majority of registered voters didn't even vote. Smyrnans don't vote because they don't support Bacon. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

And who admits they live in Smyrna? They say they live in Vinings. Smyrna has an awful reputation.

I also don't see anyone coming to the podium to tell the mayor and council that they're doing a good job.

I noticed the councilwoman hasn't addressed K Davis' concerns. And K Davis made good points. Score one for Davis!

Mike H is probably a city employee. I can't see anyone without something to gain repeating this propaganda.

The voting rate in 2009 for Atlanta mayoral rate was only about 30% according to the AJC. I don't think we in Smyrna are unique in low voter turnout for municipal elections.

Also, typically when you don't support a candidate, you vote against them, not abstain from voting. Not that the other choices were particularly supportable for a rational person.

Well said, Amy.

Wow, Tiffany, you tried to position yourself as an "outsider", but it didn't take long for you to out yourself as being part of the "Smyrna Sux" gang. Well, since you feel compelled to rehash their talking points/distortions (ones that have been passed around/reposted many times before, I'll repost something too...

"I love how you & others keep trotting out these (misleading) numbers as if it's some sort of conspiracy. The only thing these numbers are evidence of is low voter turnout, & that the majority of people who care enough about what goes on Smyrna to vote chose Max Bacon to represent them. The rest of the people either weren't dissatisfied enough w/the status quo to act, or simply couldn't be bothered to exercise a right that few people in the world actually have, and that countless people died to provide/protect.

Yes, voter apathy is a horrible thing, & local elections are particularly susceptible to low turnout. That said, this has nothing to do w/the candidates and everything to do w/the voters.

PS...Nevermind the fact that you're assuming the entire population of Smyrna was even eligible to vote. You are (purposely?) ignoring approximately 21-22% of Smyrnans under the legal voting age, as well as others who are ineligible to vote for reasons other than age. This pushes the voting pool below 38K. Regardless of how you skew the numbers, & regardless of what you're trying to imply, Bacon won...by a large and decisive margin (88% to 12%)."

Do you guys rehearse this stuff, or do you have a sheet that you pass around? You should at least change it up so it isn't so obvious that your efforts are coordinated.

Tiffany you are kidding right? They didn't vote because they don't support Bacon?

Wow - what is fantasy land like? I'm trying to think about the amount of drugs I would have to do + amount I would have to bang my head against a brick in order to understand that logic.

"Would lose a debate with a doorknob"...lmao....so what does that make you?

Tiff, either you have misjudged us or you are part of the same small group of the “Smyrna sux” crowd yourself.
What I and some of my kindred spirits do is monitor this site to ensure that the few loud and outspoken city detractors do not continue to spread misinformation and lies any more than they already do on other sites and in our city meetings. The City clearly has decided it is in their best interest not to respond to certain people. Perhaps it is because at least one of these Smyrna gadflies has filed a law suit against several city staff and elected officials. Regardless, I do not attack any one. I call attention to and correct factually inaccurate information, misleading statements and even blatant lies.

For example in your post you said "crooked" leaders implying the leaders of our city are crooks. By that a reader might infer that there is something illegal taking place in the City’s leadership. This kind of broad general statement negatively impacts my home and business value and the city as a whole. You have provided no details and no facts and really nothing of any informational value.
You have created a negative post that will stay here and negatively impact Smyrna for many months if not years to come. In addition you hurt those who you don’t necessarily even mean to hurt. After all who are the city leaders? You were not clear. Is it the Mayor, the Council, the City manager, the downtown development coordinator, the senior staff, department directors, members of appointed committees, the police chief? Who is it that you think is a crook? And what crime did they commit? Got any proof?

Again, I have not posted here ever to protect any specific individual. I am protecting the image of my City. If you have facts and honest opinions on votes or issues, state them you’ll get my respect and friendship. If you simply rant and rave about the City without any care for how you are impacting it then you will see my posts below yours over and over.

First Freya, I want to congratulate you for what I think might be the first post you ever made where you did not say something specifically nasty about the city.
Second, you are right and I agree totally that it is perfectly ok for you or others to think or post that Mayor Bacon has been in office too long, it is perfectly ok for you to take issue with votes on how the council acted on an issue or how the city is being managed. And it ok to take issue with how tax dollars are being spent.
What is not good form is to post rants without the facts and without knowing enough to make an educated decision. It is even worse to make statements that are negative when you don’t need to do it to get your point across. Calling the city corrupt or implying there is impropriety going on without proof is very bad for our image and if you live here you should care about our image. These posts don’t just impact the people referenced within them, they are linked in internet searches to the words “ City” and “Smyrna” and people come across these posts who are new to Smyrna. People can get an impression that is false.
Why not simply state in a post what you disagree with and why rather than always add a personal attack on the mayor or council or staff or DDA? It does not accomplish anything and it certainly won’t get you any favors or the attention from those who you are trying to influence.

Yes, it’s absolutely true that everyone is entitled to their opinion…and that plenty of them are voiced here. Of course, if you (& others) weren’t so interested in playing the victim/martyr, you’d realize that nobody’s ever been called out for giving their opinion. There have been quite a few debates over opinions here, but the only time anyone’s ever been called out for anything they’ve said is when they cross the line into making false statements or false/unsubstantiated accusations. There is a big difference between the 2 scenarios.

Also, I’ve been active on this site for the last 8.5 months, and I have NEVER seen anyone claim that Smyrna or its mayor/council are perfect (or anywhere close to it). In fact (not opinion), most of the people who you classify as “bullies” are on the Patch record saying that they realize Smyrna and its mayor/council have their faults…some of the same faults the “Smyrna Haters” lament. On the other hand, we can all point to several people here who have never said a good word about Smyrna (& that’s putting it mildly). & when a group of people trashes Smyrna every chance they get (sometimes w/blatant and proven falsehoods), you bet people who like Smyrna and think it’s a good place to live despite its faults are going to speak out against them.

If some people stopped presenting false/unsubstantiated claims and stopped presenting their grievances like a child throwing a tantrum, then perhaps they may find a more sympathetic audience…& perhaps *GASP* some common ground or agreement.

Chris long you should be syndicated. Every time you post I wish I could have said it like you did.

Technically we have proven on more than one occassion MANY things in countering the false or misleading post made by a very small percentage of unhappy citizens. And the ONLY time things have gotten nasty are when we had to defend statements that were personal, false and frequently libel. As for having your opinion (whether right or wrong) is no different than us having ours (whether right or wrong)...but there is a big difference between an opinion and making false claims while not being able to back the accusation up with facts. There is also a difference between an opinion and making personal attacks towards a person(s) and their involvement with the city and wrongfully accusing them of criminal activity. As for bullying any one.....I believe that would fall under the "kettle calling itself black", I think there are plenty of post to prove that. Maybe practicing what you preach would be benificial for everyone...please do "give it a rest".

Voicing suspicion & perception of impropriety is completely different than making definitive statements & accusations of impropriety w/o proof. The former is an opinion & the latter is [wrongly, though often purposely] presented as fact. Again, as has been stated here umpteen times, nobody has a problem w/differing opinions...it's the misleading, false &/or unsubstantiated statements/accusations that are refuted.

& actually, I'm not a fireman, but I did stay a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I can state unequivocally that "only a great fool would" not know that you don't need fire to produce smoke. & as my brother, a Captain & 16 year veteran of the Fire Department, will tell you, where there is fire there very well could be an arsonist.

Freya, your post is a perfect example of the difficulty anyone has in carrying on an intelligent debate with you.
The real problem is that apparently you live in a world were facts don't mean anything and logic does not exist. So of course you don't think "we" (the champions of Smyrna) proved anything or supported our posts with facts, because you just take a fact and call it an opinion. I can't tell you how many times I have supported my posts with links to City master plans and websites that proved the statements of others to be false but I can tell you that it has been don frequently.

Listening to you & “the people you’ve apparently aligned yourself with” drone on and one about all the wrong-doings perpetrated by city officials is like watching Geraldo Rivera try to whip people into a frenzy only to open Al Capone’s vault & find it completely empty. If even a fraction of what you all allege is true, then it would be very easy to provide irrefutable proof. Proof as yet undelivered. Further, if even a fraction of what you all allege is true, then there are any number of law enforcement organizations that would gladly investigate and prosecute.

Sadly, if any of you stopped & looked around, you’d realize that many people on many occasions have voiced concerns & grievances about the way the city operates. Most people tend to shun the “pitchforks & torches” mentality for a more constructive approach. That mentality & the accompanying theatrics costs you & “the people you’ve apparently aligned yourself with” a lot of credibility (in some cases all credibility). Your methods distract from any legitimate criticisms that you may have, and turn off those who might otherwise agree w/you. As Maynard says, "not all martyrs see divinity."

Of course, all this begs the question... Most people understand that Smyrna is still a great place to live, & a place w/a lot of potential despite its problems…but if we’re all wrong & Smyrna is the unmitigated disaster you claim us unwashed sheeple cannot see, why do you stay?

Freya, your sentiment on the debate is very true. It is certainly clear to me that neither "Camp" is going to change the others feelings. However, as I have explained to many of my friends and colleagues, I for one am not posting to change your mind or theirs.
I am here for three reasons:
The first is to make sure their are at least a few positive posts and posts that counter or correct slanted opinion posts by others so that readers not familiar with either "camp" will see that there is debate and that the overwhelming feelings about where Smyrna is headed are not seen as completely negative.
Second, I do hope that eventually I could dissuade some of the opposite "camp" into at least being more constructive and to stop the unnecessary sniping. If they start thinking about the negative web based image they are creating for our city as a whole they might just see my point.
Third, I enjoy honest debate and I believe that this site is good for the sharing of differing views and ideas on City projects. I have been told by several people that the information posted here has been beneficial to a number of people making up their minds on project proposals.

So instead of posting a link and complaining about the city you live in and the people who care about it...start a group like Vinings did......oh that's right...it's just easier to complain and target people who care than to actually do something positive for your community/city. Have fun with that.....I am sure you will find great success in your lack of effort. ;)

Oscar, I don't blame you for not following the whole thread…it does get maddening. What started as a statement to stop reposting lengthy excerpts &/or entire articles (something that happens all too frequently) turned into a chorus of the "usual suspects" chanting their tired refrain. "Smyrna sux. The mayor & council are corrupt, & the city actively conspires in secret against the citizens & their interests". You're absolutely correct, this had nothing to do w/the article above. Unfortunately, if you look back through the many stories here over the past months, you'll see that this happens fairly frequently. Many threads get hijacked this way…w/1 (possibly 2) of the "usual suspects" being actual, former Mayoral candidates. You're also correct in that these flame wars aren't very productive; however, I (& others) got tired of listening to people continually trash the city w/o rebuttal. They often post w/extreme prejudice (sometimes making demonstrably false claims), & often make unrealistic (sometimes completely contradictory) statements/demands...all without offering anything positive or, @ the very least, constructive to the debate. Heck, many times there is no debate--just screams & crocodile tears about being silenced or censored. So, instead of letting them trash the place we all live w/o rebuttal, you now have a group of people who will counter their nonsense. Is this always the most constructive approach? Admittedly, no…but not acting would be worse.

Thanks for you concern Oscar.... as a matter of fact, on more than one occasion it has been offered to meet and "discuss" the issues in person, but never have we received a response to do so. You ask where the editor was in all this.....deleting post that were personal attacks and not appropriate. As for straying from the topic...may I suggest you take that up with the individuals who continue to make personal attacks on others that post here...even when they have not stated anything in a thread, yet still manage to be brought into their false and frequently inaccurate post. So with all due respect......my suggestion, ask the unhappy citizens that post here frequently to stay on topic and leave the personal attacks to themselves or to the face to face debate that we still are more than willing to have with them. :) Other than that....I would just read the article and not the comment section if you don't want to witness the craziness that occurs...or like me...just considered it entertainment - because many times what a few individuals post here...is exactly that.

Well, sorry you feel the way you do. We all have our opinions, our reasons and motivations, good luck with yours and I will keep up with mine. As for the debate...looking forward to the opportunity....if it ever happens.
As for closing the thread....not a bad suggestion...or you could just stop reading it it...but then what would be the fun in that. :)

Oscar, it's hard for me to believe that you've actually read all of the comments here…or any other article here. Out of curiosity, who exactly do you feel are the people who are "attacking" others, & what is it that you feel are "attacks"?

If you've been around this site long, you would know that the "Smyrna Sux" crowd posts the same, tired drivel ad nauseam. No matter the topic of the article, or the direction the commentary goes…sooner or later it all turns into a soap box for their talking points & accusations. Some of what they say is true, but the bulk of it is unsubstantiated @ best (w/a good bit of it demonstrably false &/or libelous). Go back & read past articles…especially, but not limited to, ones covering the election. You'll quickly see the pattern emerge over & over.

I get where you're coming from about the display this type of commentary makes, & you won't get any argument about it being productive. However, as already stated, the alternative is worse. You're right, this type of display does show that Smyrna is divided…and that's a good thing. If people weren't divided, & nobody rebutted their nonsense, then anyone who visited this site would believe that everyone hated Smyrna & thought it was a horrible place to live.

Keep in mind that nobody is bound here. You won't find anyone here saying that Smyrna is perfect, but if Smyrna were even half as bad or corrupt as depicted by some, then why stay & why waste the effort trashing the place?

You mention that we should all take this offline, & I agree. Are you going to organize the meeting though? This type of thing has been suggested several times, by several people, but the "Smyrna Sux" crowd will not respond. It's known that @ least one member of the "Smyrna Sux" crowd will not even interact w/her neighbors as they try to clean/fix their neighborhood, yet she'll come here to post comments and write op-eds about how bad her community is [supposedly] deteriorating. They've even been offered exclusive audience w/council members to air their grievances (which rarely happens in ANY community…if at all), and they've turned that down…the offer in this comment thread is but one of many. They will only use this site, the MDJ website & city council meetings as their forum. And they aren't interested in talking or debating--they are only interested in making demands. But hey, if you can bring them to the table…fantastic…we'd all welcome it. Who knows…perhaps you'll have better luck getting it organized than anyone else has.

Oscar, it's clear from your posts, & that you've only posted 3 times, that you haven't been around here long, & have no context about what's been going on. I've said 2x now that "bickering" isn't the best way to hash out differences, but when people ceaselessly trash the city I live in the way they have, you can bet I'm going to rebut them. I don't do this to gain the respect of anyone, so if someone doesn't approve, so be it. I'd rather people be annoyed w/me for sticking up for the place we all live, than watch it continually trashed w/o rebuttal. What's "truly sad" about your stance is that you think the "bickering" is bad, but apparently don't see or care how damaging it is to only see repeated negative comments/accusations. Curious that you condemn the rebuttals, but not the negative comments/accusations. Yes, I call some people the "Smyrna Sux" crowd...it's an apt description. What would you suggest? Read what they write & you won't be able to classify it any other way. If they ever said something positive, then perhaps things would be different. As it stands, on the rare occasion that they actually do post constructive or non-inflammatory comments, they are met w/o incident, or even agreement. So go back and get some context about what you're railing against, & then come back & see if you still have the same opinion. Since you're so interested in taking this offline, let's do it. Name the time/place, & I'll gladly discuss they dynamic here, or anything you'd like.

Oh how the sentiment and delivery is all too familiar with a passionate desire for change. Thank you for that. Your suggestions are valued and we will continue to work for the betterment of our community, neighborhood and city through the volunteer efforts we already participate in and the desire to speak positive about that city. Being part of the solution is much better than being part of the problem. Look forward to seeing you around town since you have made such a great suggestion or maybe even on the Patch since it does become an easy way to communicate. It is a great venue to bring together ideas, solutions, suggestions, community support and general factual information, something you now have participated in. It takes a village even if all citizens do not agree. :)

Oscar, I really hate to revive a dead thread, but you posted earlier tonight on the “Ward 4 Councilman Talks Concord Rd, Atlanta Rd @ Meeting” article that was pretty revealing given the context of your comments here. Now, your post in the other article no longer shows, but it does show in your profile & in the email update that goes to other commenters, so you must have deleted it. Since I couldn’t respond to it there, I will here instead.

Your post from the “Ward 4 Councilman” article, combined w/the selectivity of your posts (i.e., what you choose to ignore & what you choose to address) & the selectivity of criticisms in this article, are pretty compelling reasons to think my earlier assumptions about you were spot on. You’re either as out of touch as I suggested, or you are actually in cahoots w/the “Smyrna Sux” crowd (which wouldn’t surprise me given how closely your deleted post mirrors some of theirs).

You claim to be an impartial Smyrnan who’s been around the Patch for months, but only recently felt compelled to comment b/c you wanted the “bickering” to stop. That’s curious though, considering both the ironically “bickering” tone of your comments, & the fact that you seem to think only one side is responsible for the “bickering”…the side that’s trying to clean it up. You lament the “posturing” as irrelevant, but completely ignore how & why the comments developed the way they did…& who was responsible for this. You ignore the drivel from the “Smyrna Sux” crowd, & the comments by those who directly addressed you, then fault/chastise those who refute their drivel. You further ignore months of context from previous articles as well that would answer most of your concerns (something you would be very familiar w/if you were around as long as you claimed).

You say we should “lead by example” & take things offline, yet completely ignoring the fact that many an invite has fallen on deaf ears. You apparently missed the latest such invite in the previously mentioned article as well. Of course, I’m not above saying that I’m wrong. If you feel I’m incorrect, how about taking your own suggestion & meeting me for that offline discussion, hmm? Name the time & place. If you do not want to follow your own suggesting about meeting, then you shouldn’t bother responding at all.

Oscar, its hard to have a discussion of any kind when you have continued pattern of ignoring comments & context. Your posts here, including the one you deleted, fit a pattern--a disingenuous & paternalistic one at that. You claim impartiality, & act as if you're trying to be a voice of reason, yet as previously noted, only selectively address issues and selectively criticize. The content of your posts also closely aligns w/a certain subset of posters here...posters you conveniently absolve of any culpability for the issues you raise. That's the reason I (as you claim) "attacked" you.

Though your assertion that I, or anyone else here, "attacks" anyone else for having differing opinions is way off base...and further further evidence that you are either pushing an agenda, or are just not paying as close attention as you claim. Nobody here, myself included, has ever "attacked" anyone for a difference opinion. What you are mistakenly (or purposely?) confusing is when people refute false &/or misleading information posted by others...especially those posts designed to create controversy &/or the appearance of impropriety.

You are 100% correct, & all would agree, there are issues facing Smyrna that cannot be resolved on this or any other forum. That's why I attend council meetings when possible & meet w/other citizens to find ways to better the community. There are others on here that do the same. However, when you have a group of peole that continually & exhaustively trash the city every chance they can in multiple online & offline venues, its necessary to address those things. & yes, these come from the "Smyrna Sux" crowd...again, if you paid attention as you claim, you would see that is an apt nickname. The context of all of their posts boil down to their feeling that "Smyrna Sux". For them it's not about airing or addressing grievances, it's about tearing down a community b/c they are disgruntled. Most people immediately see those posters for what they are, but many are not familiar w/the situation(s) & can/do take them seriously. If you were as concerned about Smryna as you claim, then you would be just as adamant that those posts don't go unanswered.

Now, who knows, perhaps I'm wrong about your intentions, & I am more than willing to admit it if I am wrong. The pattern you're creating says otherwise @ the moment. As I've said, & others have repeatedly said they'd do, I would gladly take your invitation to meet offline, but much like the "Smyrna Sux" crowd, you seem to equivocate or refuse. If you really are leery about meeting (which is both laughable & hyperbolic), perhaps it could be after a city council meeting since there is law enforcement present there. However, until you practice what you preach, perhaps you shouldn't preach. Also, while on the topic of preaching, I'm curious about your comments regarding "The Truth" outing me. What exactly is "The Truth", & what is it exactly that I need to be "outed" for?

If you want to meet offline, as many of us already have, then by all means, do so. You're more than welcome. There's always a place for people that are willing to get involved and effect positive change in Smyrna.