Editor Angela Chao firstname.lastname@example.org
Tuesday Mayor Max Bacon addressed the Smyrna Rotary Club about some of the developments around the city.
Read more about some of the developments Mayor Max Bacon mentions in the video:
Halpern Submits Rezoning Request for Belmont Hills Site
Dunton Street Lot Back on the Market
Jonquil Site Plan, Agenda Items Withdrawn at City Council Meeting
New Smyrna Elementary School Progress Continues
Read more about some of the developments Mayor Max Bacon mentions in the video:
6:20 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
This guy has got to go. The asking price for the Concord & Dunton property is the same price they paid for it. This is after Pritchard said they'd sell it at a profit. Interesting how the Security Exchange Bank was seized and the next thing you know they've slapped a for sale sign on it. We have to listen to him telling the Rotary club the developments of the city. He needs to be talking to us not them. Is one of them capable of telling the truth. How these people got into leadership positions is beyond my comprehension.
8:12 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
The greater fool theory.
12:47 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I think the man's record speaks for itself. The voters of the city keep electing him by large numbers, so yes we have the man that we want in office. Max Bacon is trying to get something done. He will talk to any group that asks him. He will always respond to those that talk to him, not at him. Did the city finance the property on Concord with Smyrna Exchange bank ? Did he rubber stamp a loan with them ? Wouldn't it make more sense for the city to sell the property at a much larger amount so they can line their own pockets with that money ? They are only attempting to have a say so on these lots that they now own, to help the city, not hurt it. Some of you just continue to make up your conspiracy theories that cannot be substantiated by one ounce of proof. The real proof comes to light each election day.
11:05 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
The citizens of Smyrna do not vote. The smallest minority of voters cast their vote for Bacon. There are no large number of voters. That fact has already been established. You keep repeating a lie with the hope that people will eventually believe it.
He will not speak to any group that asks him. He will not speak to the citizens of Smyrna. If he were in the private sector he would be fired.
1:22 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
30080, out of the entire pool of Smyrna citizens who either were driven by sense a civic duty or could otherwise be bothered to get out and vote, a significant majority voted for Mayor Bacon. No amount of whinging can alter that fact, regardless of how you feel about his performance in office. "By large numbers" means the margin of votes, ie a percentage. If only 10 people voted, and 8 vote for Bacon, then he still won by large numbers when comparing the difference between 8 and 2. That's 6, or 80% to 20%, in case you're having difficulty doing the math. Mayor Bacon won his last election with 75% of 5,501 votes (out of a total of 26,223 registered voters). That means more than 4,000 people voted for Bacon. While that may only be approx. 16% of the total registered voters, it's still a large number compared to the number of votes the other candidates received.
If you're so bothered by this, instead of demonstrating a lack of understanding of basic math, perhaps you should make a greater effort to rally more support behind an alternative candidate, or even simply inspire more people in our community to get out and vote. However, be warned, such actions take more effort than typing comments into an internet forum.
2:39 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
He has no record to speak of.
10:24 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I wish I could have understood the recording better to understand the status of Jonquil. I admit that in general I prefer written reports to video. If video is to be used, greater car should be given to the audio quality.
10:58 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
About JV. He said it's "slow go" & the city is still working with Publix. In 2008 city signed contract with them. Hopefully within 2 yrs. something will happen. City owns 2 tracts of land at JV.
"Slow go". No it's "dead stop". Publix not building four years after signing a contract. The problem is with the city not Publix.
5:44 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
30080, the reason that JV isn't built is because people rejected the latest plan that Branch properties came out with, and Branch withdrew it. The reason people rejected it was concern over the fact it was really just a stripmall with mid-rise apartments over a parking garage next to it, which wasn't really the idea people had of "mixed-use". People also had concerns over the fact that the city had just purchased and torn down older apartments. However, I think we could have gotten past that had JV's new plan not been more of a glorified stripmall. Keep in mind the original plan prior to Branch buying it was something that would have been nationally recognized, like West Village or Ivy Walk. I don't think citizens were willing to drop their standards that much. Yes, because of the market density has to be lower, but citizens are hoping for the same kind of spirit of the original plan, just scaled down.
11:56 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Apparently Some of us do and of those who do the majority of us vote for Max Bacon. See how simple it is.
2:36 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
You're called the great unwashed masses.
2:49 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Funny how the "unwashed masses" can at least show up to vote.
Strange how people are supposed to be swayed by folks who have nothing better to do than post insults on the internet. Great tactic you've got there. How is that working for you?
12:37 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
If 30080 has a problem with the number of voters in Smyrna not getting out to vote, then maybe 30080 should start a "Get out and Vote" campaign. Try being creative instead of complaining. P.S. I did vote and I voted for the right man for Smyrna.
2:34 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Apathy is a symptom of a dictatorial regime.
2:33 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Amy H, it's not a lack of understanding of basic math. It's voter apathy. People in Smyrna don't vote because they don't have anyone to choose from. Max Bacon isn't a choice. He's been forced upon the citizens because of his dirty tactics. He will and has done the dirtiest of things to make sure he's elected.
Also he and the city council use people like you to do their jobs. He won't open his mouth to a citizen of the city but he's got you yahoos singing his praises all over Patch. There is power in public opinion and it doesn't support this unworthy and incompetent man.
2:59 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Lack of reading comprehension capabilities aside, why aren't you doing something constructive about it? Please, by all means, provide some concrete, documented examples of the dirty things Mayor Bacon has done to get elected. I'd be open to reading more than armchair internet whinging from people with a severe lack of basic education skills and nothing better to do with their time.
As Chris Long said...I've "heard" about the meth lab in your basement, but until someone offers up proof, it's just hearsay.
5:15 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Amy H...well said in both posts. I am so sick of hearing the same people complain over and over again about everything the city officials do. Are they perfect? No. No government ever is. Numerous times I've had to contact the city to stay on the developer of a partially developed piece of land near my house to keep it maintained. But you know what, I call in a civil way, talk to the appropriate people and the job gets taken care of.
If you are so unhappy, why don't you move? You think they are corrupt? Try living in DeKalb County or better yet within the city limits of Atlanta. I've lived in both. Maybe then you'd realize how well you've got it. Clean streets, clean parks, relatively good roads and for the most part low crime. See what you get when you move to Kirkwood, East Atlanta, Grant Park or even Buckhead. As far as saying it's the City's fault that Publix isn't built, maybe after the civics lesson in voting you should look into how real estate works. The City does not own the property, therefore has no control over when Publix will build. Can they court Publix and other companies? Certainly, that's what governments do. However, if the developer goes belly up and does not build the shopping center, how is Publix going to move in? Even if Publix was footing the bill to build the grocery store, why would they waste their money moving into an undeveloped property. It doesn't make good business sense.
7:08 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Well Freya, jump on in. You know how it is supposed to go, in your opinion. I'm sure you may get as many votes as the Ex Dog catcher. What's her name has moved away, so you don't have to worry about her ( Not that you would have any real competition there ). We the unwashed, will be busy taking a dip in the Fountain in Downtown Smyrna after voting for Max Bacon yet again.
1:40 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Oh for Pete's Sake! Grow up, People!
I've lived all over Metro Atlanta and I can say without hesitation that the main reason I've stayed in Smyrna lo these many years is Location, Location, Location!
And nothing else is keeping me here right now!
I am so sick and tired of listening to my "neighbors" telling people to get out of OUR city simply for exercising their First Amendment Right to say they think the Mayor, or Council, or (fill in the blank) stinks! I don't hear those people telling any of you to leave YOUR homes!
We most certainly have issues in Smyrna, but the biggest of them all is the same one facing the rest of America, division of our people. We the People of Smyrna can't even agree on what problems we have, much less prioritize then begin working on them!
I personally do NOT like the direction this city is headed. And we can only look to our "leaders" when that happens. But that doesn't automatically mean I shouldn't speak my piece, and it certainly doesn't give anyone else the right to demand I leave because they don't like me expressing MY opinion.
The frustration is running high and deep in Smyrna. And maybe this "internet forum" is the only way some of our citizens believe they can vent those frustrations with our local gov't.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. And I find it quite suspect to see people attempting to silence them.
10:59 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Ahh, the same tired refrain of, "We're just exercising our 1st Amendment rights, & evil people are trying to silence us." What was that you said about growing up?
You can be "so sick & tired" of this situation, but it's one of your own creation. As much as you & the rest of the "Smyrna Sux" crowd loves to make yourselves out to be martyrs, nobody is telling (or ever has told) anyone to leave Smyrna "simply for exercising their 1st Amendment rights". What you view as a witch hunt to drum dissenters out of town are a legitimate questions/statements based on your own postings.
11:04 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
The reason people question why the "Smyrna Sux" crowd would stay in Smyrna is b/s they've been reading countless whining & complaining posts for months upon months. Just about every post states or implies impropriety &/or malfeasance on the part of the city & its employees, & criticizes every decision/action made by the same. & pathetically, too posts have been demonstrably false &/or misleading. (Note: if Smyrna was that bad, no exaggeration or falsehoods would be necessary to get the point across.) All this w/o offering anything constructive or productive...just ceaseless whining & complaining. Being dissatisfied & voicing your opinion is great, but doing so repeatedly & never taking action is a waste everyone's time. & no, "venting" on the Internet is not "action".
The Smyrna that the "Smyrna Sux" crowd depicts is one that is corrupt & hopelessly circling the drain. So, this does beg the question of why you people would want to stay in such a ****hole. Location isn't the reason. There are plenty of places in the Metro area that are "great locations", & any of them would have to be better than the Smyrna you depict.
I'm starting to believe that you people have nothing better to do but complain, & will do so no matter what is going on...b/c complaining is easier than doing. Quit complaining & start doing. Run for office, start a civic group, or anything else. Otherwise your "venting" is a fruitless exercise that just creates a crappy atmosphere for everyone.
7:26 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Far from wanting anyone to be silent, I'm still waiting for someone to give me some specific examples...after all, my husband and I moved here in 2004, and all we can go by is what we have experienced ourselves, which aside from economic conditions that many cities have struggled with, has been significantly positive. It's why we stayed here in Smyrna rather than opting to move to another neighborhood in metro Atlanta. I would think people would welcome the opportunity to educate us, instead of simply playing Doug and Wendy Whiner all day long.
By all means, please! Educate us! With *specific* examples! Cripes, but I keep begging for someone to post more than petty insults. Sure, everyone can come on here and exercise their first amendment right to insult people by calling them "the unwashed masses" simply because they don't agree with them, but unless you can back it up with something substantial, it just sounds like childish playground talk. "Grow up," indeed.
9:32 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Here, let me give you some examples:
"Freya Stark" says: He's been forced upon the citizens because of his dirty tactics. He will and has done the dirtiest of things to make sure he's elected.
What dirty tactics? What dirtiest of things has he done to make sure he's elected?
Oscar G says: I personally do NOT like the direction this city is headed.
What are some specific examples of what you do not like about the direction the city is headed in?
We the uninformed unwashed masses depend upon you to enlighten us. Here is your forum, where your voice can be heard. If you stand on a street corner with a sign that says "the sky is falling," believe that I'm going to ask you why, and if you hope to convince me, you need to have something more substantial to add. So let's hear it!
11:32 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Good Luck with getting a response Amy H. It seems that every time specifics or proof are asked of this particular group, they never come back with that information. Oh, occasionally you get the personal attacks on private citizens, but not once have they ever provided specifics...nor have they ever followed through with any type of solution or action on their part to actually help our city. Oh wait...there are the random post about other cities and what they are doing, but usually those can be countered with facts that support our city either is doing something like it, have discussed it or have directly been impacted (like the rest of this world) by the economy so it is not a viable option....at this time. Some of us have even asked for them to join us in even the smallest of opportunities to help our community, but we were criticized on that effort too, so much for the olive branch. Oh well, they say there is one in every crowd....it just appears we have a few extra. Fortunately, we have many more citizens who are passionate about positive change and are willing to actually do something about it. :)
12:02 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Michelle: With governments, it's all about asking the right people and right questions. There is a place called Community Development. It's in the Taylor Brawner House. They usually know what's going on and follow process versus being encumbered with politics.
11:51 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Glad to see the level of decorum has risen and that the comments provided the resident commentators on Smyrna Patch are now excellent in their merit and truly thought provoking.
Oh wait, nothing has changed. Still the same old school yard peeing contests. Well, you kids carry on with your name calling and peeing contests. Have a great day!! Just a question thought, what’s the last company to relocate to Smyrna that provided more than just a $5.25/hour job? Don’t worry, I won’t sit around waiting. I already know the answer.
12:06 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Thank you for your own thought provoking and merited comment. You mention that you know the answer. Please share with the rest of us that apparently are in the dark. Wisdom is powerful and you seem to have it, so enlighten the rest of us. Thanks. :)
3:03 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Michelle, while I agree with you that wisdom is indeed powerful, I feel it need be obtained by the individual through their own means & not through the collective. I also know, that any answer I give that doesn’t align itself with the wisdom of the collective, will be met with serious doubt. And that’s perfectly acceptable to me for anyone to doubt my answer. We ought question what were told & by whom we’re told. So while me giving the answer would be easiest, I feel it better if people go look for themselves. I’m left scratching my head when I read about national firms that bring quality jobs relocating to other Cobb cities & not Smyrna, when Smyrna offers considerably more in terms of housing, quality of life, municipal services, etc.
8:41 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Well Alex, I guess many of us will continue to be with out the answers or continually make false accusations about the problems. I personally was hoping to hear a different perspective and one that would come from somebody who ran for council - that may have a different perspective. Oh well. As for businesses not coming here....you and I have exchanged our feelings on this topic, so there is no need to recap that. :) BTW....we are looking for dedicated volunteers at Brown Elementary if you would like to come help.
10:06 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I don't recall ever making any type of accusation against anyone here on Patch (other than calling out the childish behavior) or against a member of the council. And if I ever were to do that, I certainly wouldn't do it on Patch. And I'm pretty sure most everyone here knows exactly where I stand when it comes to Smyrna, both good & bad, and why I ran for council. And thank you for the invite.
10:50 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
No misunderstanding Alex, nor were you accused of anything (the comment was based on "others" that post false information or accusations and may have benefited from your knowledge)...you mentioned that you knew the answer...I was just hoping to hear it. You feel otherwise. No worries. It's all good. :) Hope to see you around Brown. :)
2:13 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Alex, I tend to agree w/a lot of what you say, but you know this isn't a pissing contest. & it's ironic that you take a condescending & sarcastic tone w/everyone to tell them that they are a bunch of "kids" behaving improperly, while asking for/expecting decorum & a higher level of discourse. At any rate, you (& a few others) normally post a lot valid grievances w/the city, & that's great b/c it's often necessary. However, while you do it productively w/logical & fact-based posts (you even going so far as to run for office), you know there's a group of posters here who neglect anything good in the city, complain for the sake of complaining & pursue a singular goal of tearing down the city & its employees at all costs. It's unfortunate that productive discussion gets clouded or drowned out by this, but I would think someone as invested & engaged in the city as you are would be just as inclined to rebut their drivel (especially given that too often it's half-truths, misinformation or sometimes lies).
2:29 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
As for your "food for thought" question, you know there isn't going to be a lot of industry/commerce locating in Smyrna, & you know why...& you know it doesn't need to for Smyrna to thrive.
There are plenty of metro locations that already have real estate parcels well suited for industrial/commercial ventures, whereas they'd have to retrofit/build from scratch here in Smyrna. You also know that nobody is going to build speculative industrial/commercial parks in this economic climate. So, unless the city builds these things, it's highly unlikely to happen. & you know that if that were to happen, you'd be one of the loudest voices complaining that the city was misuing tax dollars.
The kicker is, Smyrna doesn't need these things in our backyard to thrive. We are right on I75/I285 & can be anywhere in the Metro for work in a reasonable time. For example, I've worked in Norcross for the last 5 yrs, & it takes me 30 minutes or less to make the 19 mile trip (occasionally 40-45, but that's rare). People can work anywhere in the metro, & come home to a quaint community. All we really need are enough good restaurants/retail/service/medical businesses to support our community & improve the quality of life.the rest. & we can repurpose existing vacancies for these things. This is exactly what happens in East Cobb & areas like it. If they can thrive, we can do better b/c they don't have the luxury of our location.
3:05 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Chris, what agitates me is this. There are those who bring ideas to the table to fix a problem they see in our city & those who vocalize a concern about something they feel could harm the city’s interest. However, what has, is, and will continue to happen is that those ideas and concerns will be drowned out by this tiresome shouting match between those who continually make assertions that our gov’t leaders have committed a crime and by those who go around thumping their chests because they do this or that for the city. Why can’t someone like Oscar come here and say he feels the city isn’t being led in the right direction without someone snarling at him with claws demanding he give his reasons? And why can’t someone like Sean M (sorry dude, I can’t keep up with all your handles) come here and share his support for an idea or person without someone berating him for being this or that?
5:45 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Alex, you're absolutely right, ad hominems often derail many discussions nowadays. Too much emotion & not enough logic. Ad hominem arguments are easier than actually having a thoughtful debate, & sometimes the only recourse when someone cannot make a substantive (or factual) point. You're also right in that not everyone sees the problems (some deliberately overlook them), & not everyone has the answers, so voicing opinions/concerns is necessary. All this being said, there's a big difference between voicing opinions/concerns & constant, unproductive complaining for the sake of complaining. There's an even bigger difference between voicing opinions/concerns & spreading lies or misinformation that is only loosely based in truth.
5:46 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
The problem here for the most part is that there is a certain group continually parrots the same tired tripe over & over, even though it's been addressed &/or debunked ad nauseam. They have no interest in discussion, they just want to push a "Smyrna Sux" agenda. You've been on this site at least as long as I have, so you've seen it. These are the same people who routinely go after Sean or anyone else they perceive as a supporter of the city. & occasionally new people will stop in & think that that group is being persecuted b/c people won't put up w/their crap, but they quickly notice the pattern for what it is.
As for those who just gripe, there's nothing necessarily wrong w/this. However, it doesn't surprise me that people take swipes @ posters like that b/c griping continuously w/o recognizing anything positive gets old & irritating. Constantly cheerleading for Smyrna w/o recognizing its problems would have the same effect. The difference is, there isn't anyone here who thinks that Smyrna is w/o problem--even the biggest supporters know that this city needs work. & in the end nobody has to provide justification for their opinions, but not providing justification invites blowback (especially if the opinions are provocative).
10:03 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
I think the issue here is that one group pretty much comes on here and in most cases post completely erroneous information, insinuations and false accusations. I mean the very first post brings up the "Exchange Bank". Then Freya says "dirty tactics" in reference to Bacon. Yet not one time has any of these posters provided proof of anything they have claimed.
The other group simply calls them out for it. Then those that are just asking for proof pretty regularly get personally attacked for asking for facts and called "stalkers" or "paid employees" or "mouth pieces" for the City. Like S. Murphy did here on this very thread (below)
The problem as you put it here, is that people do read these silly threads and if they are not as informed as you or some of the others are they go looking in these threads to see what the consensus is and then they see all this garbage and start thinking there might be some truth to some of the ridiculous claims. Next thing you know the editor starts taking them seriously and giving them editorial space and then we start hearing questions at public meetings that are just plain ridiculous.
I think that those calling these posters out for comments without merit are helping keep this site from becoming one huge negative for the City's image.
3:40 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Alex - Sean Murphy has gotten people banned from Patch. He works for the city. If he were a citizen giving his opinion there would be no problem. The problem is that he represents the city. His job is to shut us up and shut us down.
The fact that companies aren't locating in Smyrna is not peculiar to this city. It has become a problem in Cobb Co. also. Smyrna and Cobb are in decline. Businesses are not locating here. They're locating in other parts of the metro area and the state.
We want our city leaders to lead. They do not. They won't even speak. One town hall meeting in 27 years in unacceptable. Bacon is the antithesis of a mayor. Re-read what I just wrote. We want. I'm struggling for words to expression my disbelief that we would be attacked for asking our leaders to lead. Do something. Speak to us. There's eight of you and 50,000+ of us. If you could admit to the wisdom that could be gotten from your own constituents every problem could be solved in this city. Smyrnans are not stupid. They have just been silenced.
I think UCB is the largest employer. My guess for the latest company to locate here would be Glock in 1985.
Now bring on the insults. I'll post them myself if you'd like to save your time for other activities.
4:37 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Smyrnan, name one person that Sean Murphy has gotten banned from the Patch. You cannot. If anyone has gotten banned from the Patch it's been b/c of their own behavior. As for SM working for Smyrna, he doesn't, & that's been discussed ad nauseam. He has an affiliation w/the city b/c he serves on an advisory board (which is not secret & he's spoke of many times), but this does not put him on the payroll. A not-so-subtle nuance that is apparently lost on you. & as far as his "job" being to "shut us up & shut us down", I don't believe I've ever seen "Goon Squad Henchman" listed on any city job posting. Heck, even if he were in the city's employ, he IS a citizen of Smyrna, so as you say, giving his opinion is no problem.
I'm not surprised that you're struggling for words that you are "attacked" for asking our leaders to lead, b/c it's hard to quantify something that is not happening. Nobody's being "silenced", & nobody's ever been "attacked" for asking. This ridiculous hyperbole serve no one...least of all you. If you want to be taken seriously, stick to reality. You'd find that you may have a more receptive audience that way.
5:12 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
A number of you need to calm down and be thankful what you have. Your mother would be ashamed aka embarrassed at the way you are behaving.
PS – Say a pray for the people on the Gulf Coast
5:59 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I think the ceaseless whining and complaining is because some people can't handle Smyrna turning into another Yuppieville, which was set in motion long before I got here and other than location part of why I'm here. I'm a yuppie as well.
Fiscal conservatives can't handle Smyrna doing the things it needs to do in order to attract wealthy people, such as "wasteful" spending for medians and to remove eyesores (I don't consider that a waste) along with not understanding politics and why the council has to compromise with the mayor. Two-thirds of the council is new, by the way, including my Ward 7 representative Ron Fennel. I think some of the complainers are upset by the perceived lack of transparency in their mind when they, like me, could go to community development and ask questions or look over the budget. However, on a post like this complaining about transparency is pointless since Max Bacon was being transparent about what's going on. Another group I think is just upset that Smyrna is no longer a suburban town and trending towards being a small city with many of the good and bad that makes a city - the good again tending to attract yuppies. Then there are complaints about schools not being as good as East Cobb when they are not in the city's control and have been improving significantly (King Springs is now one of the best test scores in the county, and every other school has been improving).
6:00 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Then some complain the city's not removing eyesores and planting trees fast enough, quite to the contrary of those complaining the city is spending too much.
9:45 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Max Bacon has probably lived here a lot longer than any of you have. I have lived in Smyrna, Marietta, and Austell my entire 59 years here on earth. My mother worked at the Smyrna Post Office for 31 years and Max was the postmaster there for awhile. What has happened with all of the vacant properties is a product of the economy. The same thing has happened everywhere. It can't be easy being the Mayor of a city so diverse as Smyrna (and I'm talking about houses, not people).
9:08 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Another update. Cumberland CID bypasses Smyrna.
Ott suggested looking at tthe section north of Windy Hill Road, east of I-75 and south of Delk and Powers Ferry roads. That leaves Smyrna out of the Cumberland CID. Leithead said. “If we go into the city to work with that city, then we would have to have a relationship there." Marietta was mentioned as a city they could possibly work with. Smyrna was not. Smyrna needs to expand and develop. It's broken and the CID could have been a fix.
9:26 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
The reason that smyrna was not mentioned because the Cumberland CID is interested in moving into the Powers Ferry Rd area which is not in Smyrna. Also, the areas of Smyrna that border the Cumberland CID in the northern sector are all residential.
Are you suggesting that Smyrna begin to annex areas of unincorporated Cobb County in the Cumberland mall area? Neither Cobb or the CID would let that happen.
12:18 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
MS: There is no mention of Smyrna in that article and you spout things as if it's a quote from the article with no basis. I consider this borderline trolling.
You know, Sandy Springs borders the CID almost kitty-corner to Smyrna. Did they talk about considering expanding into the part of Sandy Springs right across the river in the article? No. So can you say the same thing about Sandy Springs? I imagine you won't. How about East Cobb or Vinings? So why are you picking solely on Smyrna?
9:13 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Bacon has destroyed himself with self abuse. He's going down which is his problem but he's taking the city with him which is our problem. Until he's out of office and a leader is elected mayor there is no hope for Smyrna. It will continue on this downward spiral.
12:15 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Please stop trolling. There's a difference between offering useful comments and input and just constantly beating something into the ground on a certain position without providing facts, and objective viewpoints. These seems like more of a personal attack on the mayor than anything useful. I don't see one fact in this whole comment. These posts are distracting to people that are trying to have a valid dialogue.
9:42 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
“Right now we operate entirely in unincorporated Cobb County,” Leithead said. “If we go into the city to work with that city, then we would have to have a relationship there. I’m not saying it’s bad, it’s just a consideration.”
It helps to understand the information when you are provided the whole statement. :)
Ott said he preferred that the CID stop at the Delk Road boundary rather than the city.
Hmmm...maybe Ott needs to explain "his preference" more before we speculate.
Looks like Smyrna is not the ONLY backwards city in Atlanta. :/
When voters resoundingly rejected the $8.5 billion TSPLOST tax on July 31, Atlanta columnist Maria Saporta quoted Leinberger as saying the region was going backwards.
“By rejecting this, the Atlanta region has shown that it is firmly committed to the 1980s economy. Atlanta has soundly voted for driving 30-40 miles a day and to living in large, single-family lots. It’s the same-old, same-old.”
Read more: The Marietta Daily Journal - Cumberland CID to consider expansion
7:15 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
CL. Name one person Sean Murphy has gotten banned from Patch? Mary Kirkendoll.
8:15 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
SUUUURVEEEY SAYS?!? AAAAARRRRRRNNNNTTT! Try again, RA. No matter how many times you say that, it willnever be true. Mary got herself banned. & for a banned person she's quite a prolific writer w/@ least 2 feature op eds & 1 update. & not surprisingly those rants were carbon copies of all her previous rants.
3:35 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Regarding the questions of when does office/industry business relocate to Smyrna, exhibit "A" is the growing Highland Parkway park. Regarding peoples' statements that Smyrna doesn't need commerce/industry to survive, I have to agree with Cumberland next door. However, fiscally, it makes sense to decrease the tax burden and honestly South Cobb Drive needs a game other than retail, since it is over-saturated with retail. The other likely direction - more residential on S. Cobb - is going to cost us revenues. A large 4 story office complex was going to be built behind Wendy's near I-285 and annex itself into Smyrna. That would have been a good step towards re-inventing parts of South Cobb as office, but sadly the timing wasn't quite right.
Office needs to be in areas easily reachable by people who don't necessarily know the area and with the infrastructure to support it, along with nearby places to eat and get supplies, along with infrastructure. Plazas and walk-ability a plus. General proximity to interstates is also important. The other aspect - close to talent pool - all of Smyrna has in the bag. Therefore, on the infrastructure and location: Appropriate areas for office would be North of Windy Hill on Atlanta Rd, Windy Hill, S. Cobb at Windy Hill, S. Cobb and I-285, Spring Rd just outside Cumberland, Concord at South Cobb, E/W Connector and South Cobb Drive. All but the E/W at S. Cobb have some affordable land if they are willing to tear-down some retail and housing.
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