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Fiscal conservativism that misleads: the hidden tax

Our county and state lawmakers are not adequately taxing us for education and our schools can't buy standard supplies for our children. Politicians even tout their low-tax policies as if it's helping us. However, it's not only a complete lie, but it's also causing us parents to incur costs that we can't even deduct on federal taxes. If these educational expenses were covered by property taxes, we would be able to deduct them on federal taxes. 

This attached image from http://www.cobbk12.org/budget/index.aspx shows the smoke and mirrors perpetrated by our fiscal conservative county and state leadership. They claim they are saving us money, but they are instead short-changing our schools so much that we have to purchase supplies that in some parts of the country property taxes cover.

Without going into great detail on my origins, I grew up in a state where no school system required us to buy more than a few supplies for school (folders, binders, papers, pencils, book covers (paper bags sufficed), and in higher grades calculator and protractor/compass/ruler). Art supplies, scissors, glue, etc were provided by the school system, paid for by property tax. We only needed to pay for field trips. Even team and club supplies for extra-curricular activities were covered, within reason with certain caps.

Look at what we have to buy our kindergartner, straight from our school's site:

(1) packs of #2 pencils (plain yellow ones) NO JUMBO
(1) pack of jumbo erasers
(2) packs of 24 ct. Crayola brand Crayons
(18) large Glue Sticks
(1) small Elmer’s liquid glue
(1) pair blunt 5” Fiskar scissors
(1) washable Crayola Thick Classic Markers
(1) pack of wide EXPO dry erase markers – unscented please
(1) ream of white copy paper
(2) boxes of Kleenex Tissues
(2) 6 oz. or more bottles of Hand Sanitizer
(2) 6 oz. or larger bottles of Dial liquid hand soap (1 will go to Specialists)
(1) can Lysol Disinfectant Spray
(2) container of Baby Wipes
(3) containers of Clorox wipes (1 will go to Specialists)
(1) box Ziploc bags – gallon size (boys only)
(1) box Ziploc bags – quart size (girls only)
(1) composition notebook
(2) wide-lined spiral notebooks
(1) Rest Mat for rest time – Labeled with Child’s Name
(1) Change of Clothes – Labeled with Child’s Name

If you do the math, that's hundreds of dollars extra in hidden taxes and costs. From what I understand this is pretty typical across the county and state, with some variations.

Some of these items seem ridiculous: The Lysol, hand soap, Clorox wipes, and dry-erase markers seem like janitorial supplies and two of these items specifically go to specialists (janitors?). You're saying we don't pay enough taxes to cover capital costs such as that?

Additionally, we're told they are shared between students communally. For instance, if our child uses less, we end up buying supplies for other kids. I wonder what happens when a family can't afford these supplies. Am I buying them for them? Don't get me started on schools that require uniforms (luckily not my child's). Parents have to pay for those as well even though they may be able to find discount casual clothes that are cheaper.

Finally, the other travesty is that only seniors are supposed to be spared the educational taxes. However, in this case, everyone who doesn't have kids is spared. I think that is inconsistent and puts an extra burden on some parents who are already hard-strapped to cover the costs of raising children. School is obviously not optional. It is dictated by law.

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9:49 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Brian, let's just assume we have equal homes and pay equal taxes. You have kids and I don't. Are you complaining because you have to pay a little bit more to educate your kids than I have to pay to educate your kids? Is that the issue?

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Brian

10:53 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Iowbar: You're looking at it as "them vs us". Educating children is important for everyone, regardless of whether they have children or not. Without having children, our economy would crash. Without educating them, we wouldn't be competitive. Just because some people take on more responsibility than others by having kids doesn't mean that everyone should share in what is beneficial to society. Keep in mind that outside of school, I pay a LOT more than someone who doesn't have children.

The fact of the matter is that educational portions of our property taxes are not set up to discriminate against people who do have children, at least for non-seniors. So why is the discrimination happening for supplies? What's the reason for the exception? Furthermore, people who are not seniors are likely going to have children and just don't yet. So it all balances out but does spread the costs out more so they aren't hit as hard when they do have children. That's more family-friendly in my mind.

Finally, keep in mind what I said about school supplies not being tax-deductible. Property taxes are. In a sense, we are being double-taxed for these supplies.

kmmom

6:22 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Just to clarify, the "specialsts" are the teachers for music, art, and PE. Those subjects are referred to as "specials" in the schools.
And, yes, you are buying extra for those who can't afford those items. Some of those things were just things that weren't done or available when we were kids. There was no hand sanitizer, and I have no idea what teachers wiped tables down with before (or if they did). I'm okay with those things. I don't like having to buy paper and dry erase markers, but those just aren't in the budget, although they were just a few short years ago.

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Randy Smyrna realist

8:19 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Extra property taxes for schools is not the answer. Having more deductions might be. Dekalb county spends twice as much to educate one child as Cobb and their test scores are lower. 80,000 page tax code is a problem. GE made $16 billion in 2010 and paid zero in taxes shipping jobs to China. I own manufacturing business in GA and my tax rate is 80% !!! (after you combine corporate taxes, income taxes, real estate taxes, compliance taxes, Social security taxes for employees.. etc...)

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Brian

10:56 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

That's the point: The only way to deduct it is to put it into property taxes. School supplies are not federal tax deductible and I doubt that fight would be won at the national level. State income taxes wouldn't give us a large enough deduction without totally obliterating the state's coffers.

SmyrnaCitizen

10:34 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Who are the children in our schools? Do their parents pay property taxes? I don't have children in school and I pay taxes. I think it is completely fair for the parents of children who don't pay property taxes to pick up the costs of some of the school supplies.

And, by the way, supplies (like hand sanitizer) are not capital purchases. They are expense. Capital purchases are buildings, fixtures, etc.

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John

11:24 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Now that we have a Republican VP candidate, the Democrats have already started their negative ads and as expected they are continuing to trumpet the Presidents "Fair Share" theme. When it comes to Federal taxes, consider the following: According to a recent article in the Wall Street Journal, tax payment figures provided by the IRS show that in 1980 the top 5% of income earners earned 23% of all wages paid and paid 28% of all taxes paid (this was the Reagan era). By the 1990s the top 5% of earnerd earned 25% of all wages paid and paid 34% of all taxes paid. And right now the top 5% of income earners earn 28% of all wages paid and pay 40% of all taxes paid. In other words, the rich already pay their fair share and the poor pay little or NO taxes. Said another way, the rich don't escape paying taxes, it's the poor that do. Further, it's the upper class that account for about 80
% of all jobs created in America and should not punish them. Obama and the Democrats are not sharing these facts with you. Now they say that Paul Ryan's plan to save Medicare will hurt seniors, when in actuallity, his proposal clearly states that his plan will have NO effect on people 55 years old and up. Know the truth when you vote in November! John

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Karen

4:13 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

Well said, John. If people would take the time to research BOTH sides ( not just what they want to hear ) process the facts without emotion, our great country would not be in the shape that it is right now. I sincerely hope everyone knows the truth when they vote in November.

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