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Chick-fil-A Flap Not the First Time a Company Runs Afoul of Customers

Have you ever boycotted a business because you disagreed with its politics?

 

Chick-fil-A is known for a lot of things – the chicken nuggets and waffle fries, the friendly and efficient staff, the cow statues hanging off billboards and urging people to ‘eat mor chikin.’

The opening of a new store can draw crowds of people for the chance to win a free year of food. The restaurants are popular places for school fundraisers. And many people look forward to the promotional days that offer free food to those like the cow mascots.

But in recent days, the Georgia-based fast food chain has been catching flak for president Dan Cathy’s statements again same sex marriage.

In East Atlanta, the owners of _ Chef Calavino Donati and her wife, musician and activist Doria Roberts _ shot back with a chicken and biscuit themed special event called "Urban Cannibals Bite Back." they were looking for a way to combat "outrageous and hateful things being said by fairly powerful people" including Cathy.

Patch blogger raised his concerns in a post on the Decatur-Avondale Estates site and said he wouldn't spend money at the chain any more. Tewell wrote that he’d with the company, which told him “We are not anti-anybody.”

Of course, Chick-fil-A is not the first company to take a stand that upset some of its customers.

In 2010, Target Corp. drew criticism from progressives for donating to the campaign of Republican Tom Emmer for governor in Minnesota. Some observers called Emmer the biggest opponent of gay rights in the GOP field that year.

Some Republicans boycotted Heinz ketchup during John Kerry's 2004 run for president. (His wife, Teresa Heinz, inherited the condiment company's fortune. Boycott supporters argued that buying Heinz products would help fund Kerry's campaign.)

So, have you ever boycotted a business because you disagreed with their political or social positions? Do you think such boycotts work to sway corporations? Tell us what you think in the comments area below.

Jim August 03, 2012 at 11:00 PM
There is so much more being denied than just marriage. My partner of 17 years lay dying in the hospital and I was denied in to see him before he died because we weren't married. We were never allowed to file joint tax returns because we were not married. His family contested the will even though we both built what we had together. Gay marriage affects people in a lot of ways that straight people take for granted. No one wants (or at least I don't want) special privledges, I just want the same things everyone else wants, to love my partner, live our lives to the best of our abilities, be able live our lives the same as straight married people do. I know these posts are not going to change anyone's mind on either side, but at least maybe some will understand what we are really fighting for.
Cunningham August 03, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Lee Sanders, Yea, dig that...I said pretty much the same to Chris, on the side a couple of days ago, but I can't resist jumping back in when the knuckle-dragger/flat-earthers/there is no global warming/the earth is only 5000 years old/deniers of all science that does not co-exist with Santa Claus, keep barking their B.S. It's so funny that their biggest argument is that their bigotry is a fair exchange - they see no problem with their denying people rights and view the reticence of those they deny these rights of as being just as biggoted - you're right - you cannot reason with an intellectual child - may as well tell a 3 year old there is no Santa, and that 3 year old will "logically" try to explain that you are wrong... Does an imbecile realize he is an imbecile - no; does a moron know he is a moron - no; does a child realize he is incapable of making determinations such that an adult is - no; does a knuckle-dragger know he/she is a knuckle-dragger - unfortunatley, - no - and so the yapping continues...
Cunningham August 03, 2012 at 11:35 PM
Wait - let her get me another BEER before you make her decide that!!! Seriously, it is saddest to see those classes of people that were previously similarly scorned, turn a blind eye....what's the parable? "They came for so and so, adn then so and so, and all the while I did nothing, and then they came for me"
Cunningham August 03, 2012 at 11:45 PM
It's strange how sometimes the smallest, seemingly innoucuous litle thing ends up controlling - had Alex been elected mayor, I really don't think we'd be having this conversation...
Smyrnan August 03, 2012 at 11:58 PM
Jim I was going to make a comment again until I read your post. Everything you said is sad but true. A friend of mine finally got to marry his partner (his state made it legal.) He and his partner have been together longer than his parents marriage lasted. Years ago he told me all of the legal arrangements they had in place because their relationship wasn't legally or socially recognized. (They used a lesbian lawyer.) The day they married he emailed me. I emailed back Mazel Tov!
Pam J August 03, 2012 at 11:58 PM
Oh give me a freakin' break. Yes, women had to fight for the right to be equal to men, but that is a gender issue, not a sexual one. If I choose to still believe that marriage should be between a woman and a man, so be it. Call me anything you want if it makes you feel better. But please notice that I have not called anybody a name, and believe me I could have. I just seem to have more class than you do.
Pam J August 04, 2012 at 12:07 AM
Jim, I am sorry for your loss. You sound like a very nice man. I know two gay men who have died. They both had living wills which specified that their partners would be able to see them in the hospital if they were dying. They both had normal wills, and from what I've seen, wills are hard to contest. And I know a lot of married couples who file separate tax returns. And thank you for stating your points so eloquently. Not a lot of that going on here.
Lee Sanders August 04, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Pam, Please try to READ (I know it can be difficult) my words and stopping putting things (I didn't say) in my mouth. I never said I wanted or hoped for anyone to die. I was making the point that most of the time old out-dated beliefs and ideals die out when the populations who perpetuated them die-off. This can be evidenced in the increase in bi-racial relationships. Many of the babyboomers and older generations who opposed them are dying out or getting older and the new generations don't care. So next time ask for clarification before you put words in my mouth! There are enough ignorant, bigoted, fundamentalist telling me what I want, think and feel.
Pam J August 04, 2012 at 12:24 AM
I suggest everybody read Jim's comment. He was very eloquent and to the point without being mean. THAT is how you get action. Not by bullying, which is what most of you are doing.
Lee Sanders August 04, 2012 at 01:27 AM
It's just excuse, after excuse, after excuse. Gee racial prejudice is not ok. Gender prejudice is not ok. Sexual orientation prejudice is perfectly fine because (and I'm guessing Pam is) a heterosexual, white, female. It doesn't effect me so it's fine. Thank God we have the first amendment to keep us from religious crazies making laws.
Pam J August 04, 2012 at 02:34 AM
Lee, yes, thank God we have the first amendment. You do realize it works both ways, don't you? Or do you think you have the right and those of us who don't agree don't have the right? I'm tired of dueling with you. I'm done. I'm outta here. Find somebody else to bully.
Lee Sanders August 04, 2012 at 04:39 AM
Pam, Two things just in case you happen come back and read them - 1) I enjoy a good healthy debate but I am far from bullying you. You've been very active and vocal with your opinions so I have responded to you. It's a sensitive subject and can get heated but I have never been ugly to you. Others have said some things that could be taken the wrong way (I'm sure it was said in jest to poke fun at the situation) but I have only participated in civil discourse with you from the start. Sorry you are feeling overly sensitive to my comments. 2) Yes I get "how' the first amendment works. It means enjoy your religion however you like but this country will not adopt an official "religion". As a result the nation wont adopt religious laws and use them to step on the toes of others because we all believe differently. I personally agree to disagree with people but that's as far as it goes. You won't see me or my religion trying to pass laws against someone because we don't like a certain group of people or fear them because we don't understand them. So how do I not get it " that it works both ways"? When have white heterosexuals ever been persecuted against? Let me think...Oh wait, never! You are totally entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. Sorry you felt the need to leave the conversation. I enjoyed the banter. Maybe cooler heads will prevail and you'll come back. If not, it's been fun.
Community Observer August 05, 2012 at 07:25 PM
Cunningham - no confusion on my part. Both the church and the state have defined marriage as a man and a woman, and over half of the states have affirmed that definition in their state constitution. You seem to have it backwards if you think marriage is defined any other way except for the liberal fringe of society.
Community Observer August 05, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Chris - what terrible acts do you accuse pro-family groups of? Christians are not the ones hassling drive-through workers and vandalizing private property. And for your information homosexual desires were listed as a mental illness until the 1970's, so most every generation of people have held the view that homosexuality was a deviant behavior for the past few millennia. Only in recent times has the radical left pushed to force society to accept such behavior as if normal, and still the majority of voters consistenly reject the idea of so-called gay marriage.
Community Observer August 05, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Cunningham - It's hilarious that you compare the other side to 3-year olds, but you are the one belittling and calling names. And I have the wisdom of history on my side. Neither Sodom, nor Babylon, nor Rome survived for long once they allowed their cultural standard to degrade. America will be no different if we undermine the family unit.
Lee Sanders August 05, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Community Observer (not brave enough to post their name), Yes, I AM a student of the Bible. The 6 passages you are referring to are not as cut and dry as you'd like to think. Of course, like most people who don't do enough research you take everything at face value. Unless you know more about it than me (and you would- at bear minimum- have to have a masters in theology) we're going to have to keep thoughts on interpretation to ourselves. Unless of course, you want to have a separate sparring match about those 6 verses. One warning though, you're going to have to bring a concordance so you can look up all those original hebrew, aramaic, and greek words and phrases that you think you know the meaning to. Bottom line your arguments are invalid because: 1. Jesus said nothing about homosexuality (so much for horrible perversion). At any rate The 1st Amendment says: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (Sorry but religion doesn't govern our laws). 2. The institution of marriage pre-dates the Bible and Christianity. 3. Marriage is not only a religious institution. People of other faiths (non-Christian) are allowed to marry. There are people who have marry who have no religion. Also marriages are performed that are not officiated with a minister (i.e. justice of the peace, magistrate, judge, court clerk, ship's captain etc. ) Also, there are no reports that says children need both gender parents. Same sex and single parents do just fine.
Lee Sanders August 05, 2012 at 11:57 PM
Community Observer, Yes. Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council are both considered hate groups. You should do a lot less talking and a lot more research! Family Research Council - Supports and lobbies to reinstate sodomy laws and to make homosexuality illegal. They compare homosexuals to pedophiles and the mentally ill. Claim homosexuals tend to abuse drugs. Oppose gays and lobby to keep gay families from adopting children. Focus On The Family - Opposes laws to reduce gay bullying. Lobbies to oppose civil unions, gay marriage, and domestic partner benefits. Believes a person can change their sexuality. (Really? Hey Community Observer, if sexuality is that fluid you're in luck you might be gay by tomorrow!) Calls transgenderism a mental illness. For the record I am tired of people basing their beliefs on the 'tale' of Sodom and Gomorrah. In the story the context is clear: rape (which is not the same thing as consensual monogamous relationships) inhospitality, and un-Godliness are the reason they were destroyed. Unless you want to argue Ezekiel 16:49-50 - "Now this was the sin of Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen". Also community observer, (since you know everything LOL) what was the name of and why were the other two cities on the plains also destroyed by the God of Abraham?
Lee Sanders August 06, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Community Observer, You asked me if I thought polygamy and incest should be legal? Here are my thoughts. Polygamy- no. The republicans want to elect a Mormon whose great-grandfather was a polygamist and lived on a mormon compound. You might ought to be more worried about him working to oppose polygamy laws before we become so fearful of same sex marriage. For the record I think one spouse is enough for most people. I couldn't imagine having more than one. LOL Incest - No. However, almost half of the U.S. (23 states) have laws that allow first cousins to marry. It's certainly not what I'm attracted to but it's already legal, so there. I haven't heard your outrage over the legal incest there.
Community Observer August 06, 2012 at 12:42 AM
Lee, Jesus preached to a Jewish audience, where homosexuality was unacceptable. He had no reason to bring up a forbidden practice that was clearly outlawed in the strongest terms in Leviticus. This speaks to my argument, not yours. If it had been a controversy among the Jews, then he might have addressed it. Paul did address the issue clearly in Romans, as he was bringing Christianity to the pagans who had no regulations against sexual immorality. I'm sorry but there's no evidence for your obvious attempt at revisionist history/creative interpretation here. It's quite the desperate argument - it would be much easier to admit the fact that homosexual relationships are not acceptable to God, nor to faithful believers.
Community Observer August 06, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Lee, I'm more and more disappointed in the quality of your rebuttals. First, I agree with everything you listed that Focus on the Family and FRC support and don't see any hate in wanting a better system of values for our society. Second, you said it yourself from the Ezekiel quote: "did detestable things before me". That includes the homosexual practices (remember Leviticus, where God called those an abomination?), which I said before were one clear sign of a society totally given over to perversion in many areas. I think I'm done here. At this point, you are just stubbornly refusing to see the truth right before your eyes. Not much more I can do to help you. Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" He said, "Go and tell this people: "'Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.' Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed." (Isaiah 6:8-10 NIV)
30080 August 06, 2012 at 12:50 AM
In 2009 Forbes called Chick-fil-A a "cult" and reported that its founder and CEO Truett Cathy said he wanted to hire married people because they are more industrious and productive. Cathy has been reported to say he would probably fire someone who "has been sinful or done something harmful to their family members." WHAT?????
Pam J August 06, 2012 at 01:45 AM
I really had no intentions of getting involved with this again, but here goes. Why don't we just take religion out of this and admit that we do or do not agree with same-sex marriage simply because of personal reasons. All of you can quote all of the Bible versus you want, but there are going to be people who interpret it a different way. Nobody's mind is going to be changed. I keep trying to get off the comment thread, but I keep getting the comments. I should just delete them, but stupid me just keeps reading them.
Pam J August 06, 2012 at 01:52 AM
Can I tell you how many "psycho" bosses I have had over the years? A lot of them were a far sight worse than Truett Cathy. And if you go back and read how the company first started, they didn't close on Sundays for religious reasons. Mr. Cathy said he was just worn out by the time Sunday came around and he didn't feel like working. He said he figured nobody would want to either. It may have evolved into a religious reason, but it didn't start that way. And you could call most religious dominations a "cult". Beliefs based on faith. And let's remember that Truett Cathy is 91 years old - 88 in 2009. Experience with my elderly parents reminds me that they will speak their minds, regardless of the consequences.
Lee Sanders August 06, 2012 at 03:20 AM
CO, "Revisionist History"! Good comeback. The fact that I cited three all legal (non-religious) examples and all you can come back with is more of your religious argument? You can't even come up with a coherent thought that doesn't run screaming back to it. The Old Testament was written for Jews living 2000 years ago. In fact, no Christian follows Levitical Law. No one stones to death people working on Saturday! (Yes, the Sabbath is Saturday, not Sunday). Most men shave and trim the corners of their beards. Most cut their hair. Most eat shrimp, shellfish. I'm sure some folks have eaten rabbit meat (after all this is the south). What about pork? Men touch their wives regardless if they are menstruating or not. People plant more than one type of seed in the ground, wear blended fibers, etc. All of these examples are types of Levitical Law that people like you overlook every day but "cherry pick" the verses you want to use to discriminate. The funny part is: Colossians 2:14, Hebrews 8:13, and Romans 10:4 all say that Jesus is the new covenant and that his death cancels and makes obsolete all of the old law and traditions of the Hebrews. Newsflash: We are gentiles. Jewish customs and laws never applied to us anyway. Shalom!
Lee Sanders August 06, 2012 at 03:21 AM
CO, So I guess that just leaves the New Testament. I’ll try and make this short. Jesus said nothing on the subject and he would be THE authority (‘ya know, being God and all). Very telling. 1 Romans 26-27. Interestingly everyone overlooks the part that starts out “Because of this”...it goes on to say the people exchanged natural relations to those that were unnatural (to them). So what it says is that because they started to worship idols, God (apparently like to play a little prank) and cursed them. They had, up to this point been heterosexual. Interestingly, this is the first time women are mentioned. So god cursed them and made them have a gay orgy. That would be like God cursing a gay man or women and then them having sexual relations with the opposite sex (unnatural to them) as a result. All of this from worshipping idols. Notice it is not: a loving monogamous same sex relationship. It is lust, plain and simple. They didn’t start out homosexual, God made them do it. Usually people blame the devil! Go figure.
Lee Sanders August 06, 2012 at 03:21 AM
CO, That leaves the NT with: 1 Corinthians 6:9 & 1 Timothy 1:10. In Corinthians Paul uses an obscure word that is confusing. The greek word is arsenokoites. It’s a compound word that doesn’t have widespread use amongst other ancient writings of the time. It means “male” & “bed”. Modern translations of the Bible NIV, NRS, etc. can’t come up suitable replacement so they use “homosexual offender”. The King James writes is as “abusers of themselves with mankind”. It is believed to be the first use of the term. So essentially, Paul was making words up as he went. Good job! There is data that says the term is linked to “economic exploitation”. So in all likely hood Paul was referring to male temple prostitution as he had just previously referred to when earlier in the passage he mentioned the worshippers of Molech. 1 Timothy says The “effeminate” will not enter the kingdom of heaven. The greek is “malakos”. It literally means soft. In ancient texts it was used as an insult. Which meant cowardly or spineless. I know some gay men who are not effeminate at all. So does that mean they get into heaven because of a loophole. What about lesbians? So there you go!
Lee Sanders August 06, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Pam, Welcome back! I actually think you are the first person on the "other side" that said ok, let's not beat each other to death with the Bible, unlike Community Observer. I would rather people just come out and say I don't like gays because I don't understand them, I fear them, I don't like the way the act, etc. I understand on your side you don't think it's not natural. I countered that homosexuality has been observed in 1500 different species. I think it's a good discussion. Nice to see ya' again!
Pam J August 06, 2012 at 03:42 AM
Thanks, Lee. I really wasn't even going to come back, but what the heck. Got nothing else to do. 1500 different species doing homosexual things? Probably, but let's remember that they are all things that don't have "advanced" brains like most of us do. A male dog humping another male dog, a male mole humping another male mole, so on and so on. I think that most of them are just "horny" and jump on the first thing that comes along. I don't know if Sydney will let this comment go or not! Anyway, that's my take on it.
Lee Sanders August 06, 2012 at 03:56 AM
Pam, Well it goes beyond just the physical "act", so to speak. There are many species of apes, penguins, etc. that form same sex pair bonds. Some truly mate for life. It has been documented that some have chosen the other male of it's species even when another female has been introduced into it's habitat. They do exhibit these behaviors. Wow! I feel like it's Ripley's Believe It Or Not... LOL
Lee Sanders August 06, 2012 at 05:49 PM
Community Observer, Ezekiel 16:49-50 says nothing about homosexuality. You are ADDING WORDS that are not there. You wanted to argue the Bible and I schooled you in front of everyone here! Deut 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you". Cherry pick versus, add additional thoughts or prejudices not listed or intended = delicious southern fried recipe for hate! Disappointed in my rebuttal? You have ZERO response for the three points I've outlined. You have not brought up one supporting valid argument to sustain your side other than to stick your fingers in your ears and go "la, la, la, la, la...I can't hear you". "Religion, Religion, Religion". I don't have to HIDE behind an online guise because I'm proud of my posts. In case you forgot my 3 points were this: 1. First Amendment protects the good people of this country from whack-jobs like you passing laws based on religion. 2. Marriage is not only a religious rite and pre-dates the Bible. Pagans get married after all. 3. Marriages are performed outside of the church with no religious affiliation. Bottom line gay marriage WILL be legal! In some states it already is. DOMA has already been struck down twice and ruled unconstitutional. It's headed for all 50 states. It may take 40 years (like the Civil rights of the 60's) but it will happen! When it does, come back here so I can point and laugh at you. Better yet lock your self in the closet and pray away the gay. We will all tell you when to come out!

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