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Halpern Submits Rezoning Request for Belmont Hills Site

The request will go before the Planning and Zoning Board Sept. 10.

The developer of the proposed Belmont Hills site at the corner of Windy Hill and Atlanta roads has made a move toward getting the project off the ground. Earlier this month Halpern Enterprises filed a zoning change request with the city that will be reviewed at the Sept. 10 meeting of the city’s Planning and Zoning Board.

Steve West, Halpern’s vice president of development, outlined what comes next.

“We requested to change the layout of some of the stuff that’s on our previous zoning plans,” he said “That requires going back through the zoning process again so we’ve submitted to do that. On top of that there’s market studies and site studies that have to be looked and reviewed before we can move forward with anything.”

Halpern is proposing moving the site’s multifamily component to the back side of the site between the new elementary school being built at the back of the lot and Windy Hill Road.

“If you looked at our old plans the site was developed into a number of pods—smaller development sites,” he said. “We had the multifamily component of that on Pod C. What we’re basically doing is taking that multifamily component and moving it back to Pod F, which didn’t have anything shown on it at the time.”

The Belmont Hills project has been in the works for several years. In 2008, the city approved a development agreement with Halpern Enterprises for a $250 million mixed-use redevelopment of the former Belmont Hills shopping center at the corner of Atlanta and Windy Hill Roads. West said the project was put on hold while developers waited to see what impact the economic downturn would have on the changing real estate market.

The Planning and Zoning Board will review the plans at the next meeting. If the body reaches a consensus its recommendation will go before the Smyrna City Council the following month. 

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Brian August 26, 2012 at 01:04 am
Here are some more details on the apartments. This info is preliminary since they are still working out some terms and details (e.g. the size of the pool could change, etc). The present goals:
* In order to be feasible, Steve says it's necessary to make these apartments high-end luxury units at the top of the rental market for the area. They will have all modern features expected including high ceilings, luxury features, and other amenities people expect when they are paying top-dollar rents. Comparables for the kind of quality will be units like the Highlands of West Village though he did warn that each community is unique. Exact details of the units are TBD. * The buildings will be between 3-4 floors. * The front of the pod F buildings will be incorporated into the walkable community by providing select ground-level units sidewalk-level access similar to townhomes. * However, the buildings' indoor cooridors will be inaccessible except for tenants and parking area for pod F will be secured and gated to help keep it as a top-notch apartment community. * There will be some single-car garages in the apartment's parking lot available for rent, as shown on the diagram, along with a couple carriage houses per every block of garages, similar to townhomes. (I forget the exact terminology) In my opinion, this is a walkable, urban development and a new page for the city of Smyrna. It'll be quite a gateway to the city, and I'm very excited.
R. Anderson August 26, 2012 at 02:26 pm
While Smyrna dicks around http://www.experienceavalon.com/documents/Avalon-Fact-Sheet-4-20.pdf is scheduled to open in Oct '13.
R. Anderson August 26, 2012 at 02:27 pm
And there's a Whole Foods there.
R. Anderson August 26, 2012 at 02:34 pm
Vintage Square rezoned their property for new builder to take over the unfinished development at the May 7th council meeting. They requested that due to market conditions (code for 'not selling'), The new builder wanted to build two story patio homes instead of carrying on with the existing three and four story townhomes. Price point starting in low 200s.
The Kroger shopping center is not having luck leasing storefronts. Market Village is continuing to struggle. Jonquil Village is sitting vacant with no news. Who is going to finance Halpern? Who is going to rent a store from Halpern? He's rezoning to unload property.
Jonquil Gardener August 26, 2012 at 05:36 pm
It does not appear that this is a request for "REZONING" anything. The site plan was zoned as plan specific, any change in the plan requires approval. It looks as though they have a developer interested in building the multifamily section but not in the originally approved multi-family pod. Its simple really. The apartment market is picking up all over Atlanta so this is really easy to understand. They always were going to sell a pod to multi-family developer and if this change helps that happen faster, then GREAT DO IT>
Jonquil Gardener August 26, 2012 at 05:37 pm
Why is this relevant?
Jonquil Gardener August 26, 2012 at 05:39 pm
And if they get 274 units that is only going to make the retail site that much more palatable to a potential retailer.
Chris Long August 26, 2012 at 05:53 pm
It's not, & that's the point. He/she knows this is an apples to oranges comparison.
Mike - Smyrna August 27, 2012 at 08:32 pm
Market Conditions aka Not Selling - whatever you would like to call it. If I cannot get a return on my investment aka business, I am not investing. There is another zoning issue that has not been discussed.
State guidelines require an alcohol-serving business to be at least 300 feet away from a school, Cobb County code requires businesses wishing to serve alcohol within 600 feet of a school to be approved by the License Review Board. I believe that it took Marietta Pizza Company 3 years to get a license for their West Cobb location - which is near a daycare center. The new elementary school is a market condition in itself.
Sydney Busby (Editor) August 27, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Hi Mike,
You bring up a great point. That same thought occurred to me this weekend and I'm in the process of getting more information about what this means for the development. Thanks for your comment! Sydney Busby
30080 August 27, 2012 at 11:00 pm
I thought about the liquor license. But looking from the corner of Atlanta & Windy Hill the school is towards the back. Figured a restaurant serving alcohol would be close to that corner which has to be 600 ft. from the school. If it's not the development might be stalled which is the last thing Smyrna needs.
I never got an answer about liquor and the new RaceTrac on Spring Rd. It's just across the street from a church. And close to a school. No one brought up the 300 or 600 ft. requirement.
Observer August 27, 2012 at 11:50 pm
It's easy enough to bring up on your computer the Cobb County GIS data (just Google) it includes a satellite photo of all of the land lots in Cobb and also includes a measurement tool.
Mike - Smyrna August 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm
The RaceTrac is a carry-out - a grocery store is carry-out. A restaurant is alcohol-serving (pouring). 600 feet is 200 yards - and I believe that it is calculated via a straight line. To my knowledge there are two types of a alcohol-serving license. There is a beer and wine license - A license for beer, wine and distilled spirits.
Observer August 28, 2012 at 02:00 pm
For off premise sales it's property line to property line.
Sydney Busby (Editor) August 28, 2012 at 02:27 pm
Hey guys, I was able to find an answer. http://patch.com/A-xsQN
MS August 28, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Good bye Hickory Lake Apts. Hello Belmont Hills Apts.
Brian August 29, 2012 at 04:45 am
MS: Did you read my information above? I talked with Halpern and these units have to be top of the market for the development to be feasible (or they won't build pod F). Hickory Lakes and others were low-end apartments. Much different. Plus, versus being sort of off to the side like in Jonquil Village's proposal, these will be more integrated into the development.
Inside-Out August 29, 2012 at 04:52 am
How classy.
30082 August 29, 2012 at 02:14 pm
Random but I wish that Smyrna would turn into a golf cart city similar to Peachtree City.
Could this happen? If so, how? Would it be worth it? Any other ideas to connect the city other than the normal public transportation methods? We need something unique that brings people to Smyrna. What makes Smyrna stand out? Why would someone move here? I know there are negatives to every city but what are the positives of Smyrna that give a positive living experience? Also, you know how communities adopt highways? Why not adopt shopping malls/business communities and work with the property owners and shopping mall businesses to provide volunteer help where it is needed (i.e. clearnup surrounding areas, repaint parking spot lines, landscaping)? Would the city/business help fund and provide resources for this effort?
Michelle August 30, 2012 at 01:43 am
DG, I love your idea of "Adopting" shopping malls/business, etc. it would be nice to see something like that happen.
DeCo August 30, 2012 at 02:29 am
I LOVE the idea of a golf cart city. I am not sure of the feasibility of it, but the idea is a great one. Unfortunately, it would require the city to confiscate/commandeer people's property, and I am not a huge fan of that, really. DG, why don't you come up with a plan and if it is a good one, I will support it!!
Brian August 30, 2012 at 03:22 am
Much simpler solution: ride a bike :-)
30082 August 30, 2012 at 03:47 am
Thanks all for your comments as they were informative. Are there any nonprofits that would be willing to take on the adopt a business idea? Any opposition to that idea.
30082 August 30, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Thanks for the helpful response Smyrna Heights Citizen and completely agree on the concerns. I would prefer to work with the business owners so to not cause any legal issues. I think the biggest issue would be funding but I doubt many small business owners would frown from free help. If we could get a lawyer to volunteer to draft a contract that would protect the business owners from legal risk (i.e. if someone were to be insured), that would resolve our issue. Thanks all for your comments and please let me know if there is an existing group that I could get connected with to volunteer around the community.
Cunningham August 30, 2012 at 02:41 pm
Smyrna Heights Citizen - You need to convert to Jimism to really understand, as well as to be able to see it on the site plan...The Jim moves in mysterious ways...but the dancing choir gurls are more fun to watch.
Michelle August 30, 2012 at 03:16 pm
I think reaching out to our middle and high school students through the civic groups within our schools would be another avenue....imagine the impact of this type of volunteer work executed by our future generation. It could open many eyes as well as encourage responsibility and ownership for the community you live in now and future communities you choose to live in.
Smyrnan August 30, 2012 at 03:55 pm
Adopt a Business
http://www.100urbanentrepreneurs.org/our-funding/adopt-a-business-overview/
lowbar August 30, 2012 at 08:01 pm
Lots of positive comments here. Refreshing.
Brian August 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm
A Boy Scout troop if they can make an eagle project out of it. My Eagle project was to renovate/re-landscape and re-surface a school's courtyard and gazebo. The school provided the funds for materials. I provided the time, planning, and labor (other scouts). For a private business, I think it'd be tough to make an eagle project out of since it isn't community property. I think the council may reject it if it wasn't adequately justified as something that helps the community. However, if it could be pulled off, the shopping center / business would need insurance for those doing the work.
30082 August 30, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Please keep me informed. There's a list of properties that I would enjoy cleaning up around Smyrna. Sounds like 3 major issues: 1. funding 2. coordination of people 3. legal. Brian, would you be willing to reach out to the Boy Scout troop and see if it's something we could do as it seems well organized and geared toward community clearnup. I believe helping small businesses cleanup their properties would be a perfect definiton of something that helps the community. I'd like to help so let me know.

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Atlanta Glamdoll June 15, 2013 at 07:04 pm
Are these the apartments that were once called "Garrison Plantation"?
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This is Garrison Plantation - Garrison Lakes - Lakefront Vista. I lived there when it was familyRead More owned. It went from sister to brother then sold. Changed name from Garrison Plantation (because it wasn't PC) (but no one thought about what a garrison was) to Garrison Lakes (there's only one lake) to Lakefront Vista (under new ownership.) It's a dump now. The layout and size of the apts. are great. Even the location is great. Still know some people there. But it went downhill.
MA Evans June 3, 2013 at 09:20 pm
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Jim Lyon June 4, 2013 at 01:20 am
Its sad, that young people who are gay and often struggle to accept themselves as they are, faceRead More such fury and rejection by a church that preaches love, compassion and forgiveness for most but not all. No wonder many young people, the vast majority of whom are or will be heterosexual find the church increasingly irrelevant in their lives with attitudes like this.